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Shaq is on point here. I noted that elsewhere in the Orlando-LA game. After Bynum took Howard for the first basket of the game, Howard got double team help the rest of the night.
Great help defender but weak man-to-man that SVG has to protect him.
I agree with Shaq. Howard still isn't a dominant post presence. His footwork is very poor compared to Shaq's early days in Orlando. In fact, Howard is playing more like Patrick Chewing by facing up and driving to the basket because Chewing wasn't so great playing with his back to the basket. So yeah, people should stop calling Howard Superman.
Shaq is on point here. I noted that elsewhere in the Orlando-LA game. After Bynum took Howard for the first basket of the game, Howard got double team help the rest of the night.
Great help defender but weak man-to-man that SVG has to protect him.
Howard is overrated. Not a huge fan of him. Does'nt even have any decent post moves.
Absolutely false that Shaq didn't need help doubling Hakeem and Ewing. Just check the 95 finals, and how even a Shaq/Grant double team couldn't slow down Hakeem.
Not made a movie called Steel or Shazam or whatever it was called
Shaq has always understood that the NBA is about entertainment. He's having fun.
Took Kobe FIVE trips to the Finals to earn MVP honors though lakaluva
LOL ^ Lakaluva pointing out the hypocrisy on this board LOL
Shaq is is/was the better stronger player and STILL has better post moves but Dwight is now the better player ...(if you ask who is greater 4>0)
The reality is Shaq has beefed with: Zo, The Admiral, Ewing, Ostertag, (high comedy) Penny, Kobe, Van gundy (fat one), Damp, Wade (though kept that mostly quiet) Nash, Dr. Buss, Nick Van Exel, Gilbert arenas (allegedly)
I could keep going but when one person has "issues" with several people but keeps pointing a finger ...a mirror often times tell the truth ...
Dont get me wrong, Shaq is cool , generous and funny when he wants to be ...and when he puts his mind to it (the 3 finals and his MVP year) he was the best player in basketball ...too bad he didnt do it enough ...
Hakeem owned Shaq Ewing held his own so did David fo rhe most part but having Tim helped later on ...
Agreed ...but SVG does that to prevent foul trouble ...which is an indictment of sorts on Dwight..
If youy made a name for yourself an won 4 CS rings & some young punk that has no moves besides a power dunk comes along an steals the name you made,& everyone in the league has accepted that & questioned you after all you've done! Would you be alil upset or offended!?!
Shaquille is absolutely right. It hasn't been that long ago that Shaquille dominated the entire league.
Look up his numbers sometime in the 2000-2002 Finals. He averaged over 30 points and 14 rebounds. He was completely unstoppable. The only chance opposing teams had was if he got hurt, which he didn't.
There's a reason he has three Finals MVPs.
And yes, Dwight Howard will never be that dominant on the offensive end.
WIN.Not made a movie called Steel or Shazam or whatever it was called
If Shaq weighed 260 pounds he would have been a good player in the NBA. Might have made an all-star game. Instead of the unstoppable "just swing my elbows and hips and move everyone out of my way and dunk" force that he was.
Shaq Turns Cute Dwight Howard Rivalry into Blood Feud
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Shaquille O’Neal’s best days are behind him, but he’s still a proud man. His days as a dominant force in the paint are gone, but he still likes to be mentioned in that group and isn’t too keen on giving too much credit to the younger generation. Guys like, oh, just to name one off the top of my head, Dwight Howard.
According to Brian Windhorst, Shaq was already mad before last night’s Cavs-Magic game over Howard’s latest play on the stolen "Superman" nickname (or maybe Dwight’s just not familiar with Shaq’s dramatic work). And the game itself just made things worse:
Then O’Neal started the game and saw that the Magic were doubling teaming him and that really set him off. That is a key point for Shaq and it always has been. He believes that anyone who doesn’t guard him straight up is a certain kind of coward. He’s also proud that he’s never, in his mind, needed a double team anyone in his career. […]
His ego wouldn’t let himself to be compared to Howard no matter what. The fact that Howard likes Superman and has chosen to do dunk with capes and do commercials as Clark Kent basically just supersizes the issue. Shaq considers this an insult from an underling. Here’s what he said after the game:
"When I was coming up and there was Pat Ewing and Hakeem (Olajuwon) and I never doubled anybody. You tell me who the real Superman is. Don’t compare me to nobody. I’d rather not me mentioned, I’m offended. … Don’t let them double team me and make it a him vs. me thing. 18 years straight: Hakeem, (Pat) Ewing, Rik Smits, (Tim) Duncan, (David) Robinson, the best of the best, straight up. I never doubled nobody. Nor have I ever asked for double team."
Rik Smits thanks you for including him in that group. In all seriousness, Shaq has a point here: you’d think the best defensive center in the league wouldn’t need a double-team for anyone. Plus, since the Cavs won the game, you’d imagine playing straight-up worked better.
That’s fine and dandy, but if you look at the numbers, Shaq did not have a great night. Both centers had five fouls, but Shaq was limited to only 19 minutes and finished with 10 points and six boards. Howard, on the other hand, went 31 minutes for 19 points and 11 rebounds. The point being that while Shaq is concerned with manliness and image, the Magic want to keep their best player in games for as long as possible.
Howard, to his credit, responded to Shaq’s comments on his blog:
I really think the hype out there about me and Shaq is all just TV build up. I know he had some things to say about me and Stan Van Gundy last year, and he said some other stuff Thursday night after our game about us having to double-team him. But really, I don’t have a problem with Shaq and I don’t think he has a problem with me either.
Everybody makes it a big deal with all of the Superman thing and all of that, but I never proclaimed myself to be a super man. It’s just something that I did in the dunk contest, wearing the shirt and the cape for fun. It’s not like I tried to take Shaq’s show or anything like that.
Sorry, Dwight, but Shaq does have a problem with you. This is what he does: he gets angry over slight matters and turns them into motivation for lengthy feuds. What you perceived as a goofy costume was Shaq’s version of comedians stealing jokes. Get ready for more classic digs from the Big Machismo, because he’s not about to let this go away.
Shaq apologists are laughable yes he put up 30 and 10 that does not give you the right to be an ass, throw former teammates under the buss, father a bunch of kids all over the US, and sleep with another man's fiancee, or steal someone's TV idea ...
Shaq is funny Shaq was once great but for those that can't see why fans of his former teams don't like him ...
The biggest bunch of Lakers fans that annoy me are Shaquettes the ones that STILL have not forgive Kobe or Buss for letting his ass walk ...
Would they rather have a 340 pound, weak pnr defending, talking FT bricking machine OR
Lamar, Pau and Bynum (added to either directly or as consequence of Shaq trade) ADDED to Kobe bryant?
SHAQ = made. If he played more like the he did in NBA fINALS or MVP year he could of been even greater than MJ but like Garorade says "IT" wasnt in him ...
Amen. But to shaq's credit he did admit to hating "Zo then when they plyed together realize "how cool he was"
Look I know Shaq's career was GREATER than Zo's ...but 2 thoughts.
DEFENSIVELY and As far as maxing the mosrt out of his game ZO was more succesful than Shaq.
When the games were tight vs. Dallas in the NBA Finals it was Zo with the monster dunks and the key blocks ....
Regular season Wade was the MVP of the heat and of course in the Finals as well but Zo and Posey had a bigger role in winning that series down the stretch.
coming from a Kome fan. Lets see.
Snitch-Check
Ballhog-Check
Rapist-Check
Adulterer-Check
Whiny ass -Check
Bad relationship with parents-Check
bag-Double check
Easy now. Shaq gave y'all 3 les.
NOt a Kobe fan I am a Laker fan ...get it right ...I was a Laker fan BEFORE Kobe and will be after ...coming from a Kome fan. Lets see.
Snitch-Check
Ballhog-Check
Rapist-Check
Adulterer-Check
Whiny ass -Check
Bad relationship with parents-Check
bag-Double check
I dont condone Kobe's mistake but he is not a rapist read the definition of the word...
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I appreciate the 3 les he HELPED us win ...but it could of and should of been at least 3 more ...Easy now. Shaq gave y'all 3 les.
"greatest crime in this world is wasted talent" paraphrase from "A bronx tale"
Shaq = wasted (maybe not wasted but untapped) talent
Besides that chick got laid and got paid for it ...besides Vanessa she was the bbig winner Kobe lost the most ...
LOL the funny thing is Shaq probably still believes David slighted him to this day ...
If you're not a Kobe fan then theres no need to reply. Anyway, Kobe I think raped that girl. I read his admission to the 5-0 and that pretty much gave it away.
I think at first it was consensual then Kobe got rough and the girl said "STOP" and Kobe pumped it a few more times until the girl again said "STOP"...I think thats rape.
Maybe it was Kobe's 40% performance against the Pistons that doomed the Lakers? Look, Shaq was Shaq against the Pistons, while Kobe laid an egg in that series.
Blame Kobe not Shaq.
She was sodomized. Maybe the deserves it, but it does'nt make Kobe righteous by paying someone money for doing her wrong.
Would it be OK if someone sexually assaulted your GF or Sister as long as that person is going to give them money?
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