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  1. #26
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    We're only swapping 2011 picks, assuming their pick will be better than ours. We are given their 2012 pick, which may or may not be a lotto pick, and maybe a second rounder. If you include Jordan Hill who was a lotto pick this year, I guess you could say we are potentially getting 2 lotto picks from them.
    2 x 1st (2009 and 2012) + 1st round exchange (2011)

    Hill is still a lotto PF; he is only getting 10 minutes per game and is being shipped during his rookie year.

  2. #27
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    If the Knicks strike out in free agency:

    1.) Hill - lotto pick
    2.) 2011 swap, ours will assuredly be higher.
    3.) 2012 likely lotto pick

    There is potentially three lotto picks here for us. Morey is a genius.

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    Lebron will go to NY
    Wade still stay in Miami
    Bosh will stay in Toronto
    Boozer will go to Miami with Wade
    Amare will go to NY with Lebron

  4. #29
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    So, the Rockets would get

    Harrington, Jeffries, Hill, Knicks 2011 and 2012 First round picks, and a second round pick

    And The rockets are going to have their own lottery pick this year


    *Picture taken on the Knicks home court at MSG

  5. #30
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Sons, let's pray that the Knicks are that stupid, or Morey is that good....Or a bit of both

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    Lebron will go to NY
    Wade still stay in Miami
    Bosh will stay in Toronto
    Boozer will go to Miami with Wade
    Amare will go to NY with Lebron
    If LeBron and Amare win a championship in Cleveland, they're probably staying there. At least LeBron is. I could see them both going to NY, but I doubt it since both would want max money and the Knicks can't afford two max players.

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    2 x 1st (2009 and 2012) + 1st round exchange (2011)

    Hill is still a lotto PF; he is only getting 10 minutes per game and is being shipped during his rookie year.
    That's assuming they suck in 2011, and 2012.

    I guess all Rocket fans are officially anti-Knick fans the next two years, lol.

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    That's assuming they suck in 2011, and 2012.

    I guess all Rocket fans are officially anti-Knick fans the next two years, lol.
    if this goes down; I want McGrady to unleash a can of whoopass. Make the playoff and deny their lotto pick this year.

    Next year, Knicks misses out on LeBron/Wade/Bosh and settles for David Lee, Rudy Gay, Boozer, Amare, or TMac.

    We get Hill + 2011 swap lotto + 2012 lotto.

  9. #34
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    close to being a done deal

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    What worries me is all the cap space that the knicks will have this offseason. Even if they just re-sign Lee and maybe McGrady they'll still have some money to spend. They have enough money to create a playoff team, which is bad news for the Rockets.

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    What worries me is all the cap space that the knicks will have this offseason. Even if they just re-sign Lee and maybe McGrady they'll still have some money to spend. They have enough money to create a playoff team, which is bad news for the Rockets.
    They are who we thought they were, THE KNICKS

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    They are who we thought they were, THE KNICKS
    Yeah but they have a CRAZY amount of money to spend this summer, I don't think it will be that hard for them to make a team that makes the playoffs in the east.

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    Yeah but they have a CRAZY amount of money to spend this summer, I don't think it will be that hard for them to make a team that makes the playoffs in the east.
    You forget that Mike D'antoni is the coach

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    LOL SONS, L-O- IN-L

    11 m ago By Alan Hahn
    Tracy McGrady had microfracture surgery last February and while he's proven he can run and move around a basketball court, his ability to explode -- a major part of the game -- remains questionable.
    But, really, whatever deal the Knicks may make for the former all-star will be more about other features than merely acquiring McGrady to use the Garden stage and Mike D'Antoni's system to put up big statistics to advertise for this summer's free agency.
    Once again Yahoo! Sports has an amazing amount of detailed information about a trade scenario involving McGrady and the Knicks. In their report, the Knicks will mortgage their future -- Jordan Hill and unprotected 2011 and 2012 first-round draft picks -- to get McGrady, while the Rockets will apparently take on Jared Jeffries' $6.8M salary in 2010-11 to get rid of him.

    Everyone in the NBA
    knows the New York media will jump all over every rumor and perpetuate the talk and the rabid fans here will eat it up and beg for more. So understand, Fixers, these stories are presented for public consumption for good reason.


    I will say this: the scenario reported by Yahoo! is pretty much on the mark of the parameters I'm told have been involved in the talks between the Knicks and Rockets. But it's also more in the Knicks favor because, aside from giving up on Hill, the team's lottery pick in 2009, they're clearing $9.2M in cap space for this summer which would almost certainly create enough room to slide two max contracts across the table to LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

    And the first rounders? The Knicks would swap their 2011 picks and give up their 2012 pick, which means they are giving up the chance to build their franchise through the draft in the rare case they don't sign any big names this summer.
    But with all of this cap space (remember, you can also trade for players when you have cap space), how can the Knicks even believe they could still be a lottery team by 2011 and 2012?

    Now let's look at it from Houston's perspective: they are trading an expiring contract for four an additional $6.8M in salary the following year? Fixers, understand the Rockets do not have to trade McGrady. They have him as a chip and are willing to deal him for the right type of situation (i.e.: young players and draft picks). But to add money onto the payroll when, if they did nothing they would clear $23 million off their ledger come June 30? Doesn't make a great deal of sense, unless they see some incredible upside in Jordan Hill that has so far has not caught our eye here in New York.
    Now there is the possibility that Houston involves a third team to take the Jeffries contract off their books. There aren't many teams in the NBA that want to help the Knicks clear any more cap space -- and certainly none in the East. But teams in the West, especially those who aren't even in the game for 2010, don't care as much. Keep an eye out for that kind of scenario if that's what it takes to get a deal done. And it may take that kind of help.
    P
    ut it this way, I was talking to an extremely well-connected NBA source tonight after I landed in Chicago and saw the Yahoo! report and this person said, "If this trade happens, Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

    I do believe the Knicks are closer than any other team in a deal for McGrady, but that doesn't mean a deal is guaranteed to happen. In fact, I'm of the belief that if it does go down, it might not happen until 2:59 p.m. on Thursday.
    Just bloggin.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...knee-1.1762960

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    Capologist from Clutchfans astutely suggested flipping Harrington for T.Thomas since there was an offer. Or using him to pry Bayless or Outlaw from Portland who is desperate for a big this year.

    Morey has a real chance to rape other GMs this deadline.

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    LOL SONS, L-O- IN-L

    11 m ago By Alan Hahn

    Put it this way, I was talking to an extremely well-connected NBA source tonight after I landed in Chicago and saw the Yahoo! report and this person said, "If this trade happens, Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

    I do believe the Knicks are closer than any other team in a deal for McGrady, but that doesn't mean a deal is guaranteed to happen. In fact, I'm of the belief that if it does go down, it might not happen until 2:59 p.m. on Thursday.
    Just bloggin.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...knee-1.1762960
    rofl...if he thinks this is a great deal for the knicks then maybe morey can take their 2013 and 2014 picks while he is at it lol.

    anyhow...bimathug (someone who understands the cap well) on clutchfans was saying there is no way the knicks can offer 2 max deals and it would be unlikely they could retain tmac and d. lee if they get a max guy. jesus...this would be complete rape if the knicks up their offseason.

  17. #42
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    Yeah; we need to do some Harrington flipping.

    PF: Landry/Scola/Hill
    SF: Battier/Ariza

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    Trade Harrington and one of the picks New York gives us for Iggy.

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