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Hard to tell.
Yoni might have meant in the other direction.
Hard to tell.
I'm glad the New York Times is now so patriotic and sensitive to ongoing anti-extremist/overseas contingency operations. They repeatedely disclosed sensitive information during the evil Bush/Cheney years. Good to see them turn a new leaf.
So did Bush/Cheney. Remember the "gel" bomber?
Suuuuure.
These terrorists sound and act like ing idiots. Battle of Algiers gave the blueprint for how to wage that kind of war, what makes anyone think the underwear bomber, some Arab looking dude kidnapped up by the Northern Alliance, or guerilla fighters in the mountains are going to know what the is going on with the wider operations of a terror network?
You mean like the clandestine NSA wiretaps?
Do we get a YouTube of the 'disclosed sensitive information'?
If you don't already know, he won't tell you -- because he doesn't know either.
Where are torturing this guy at? Pakistan?
We always fight the good fight.
Occupation is not the good fight...the Iraqi people have the right to self-determination..we are just delaying the inevitable with billions of taxpayer dollars...
The same can be said of Afghanistan.
The question is never are we fighting the good fight, we always do as I said. The question is always should we be fighting the fight at all?
It's Been a Good Week for the Obama Administration.
From the Associated Press:
US Marines seize Taliban headquarters, IDs, photosAfter a day-long battle between insurgents, U.S. Marines and other NATO troups, they have captured what appears to be a Taliban headquarters. The insurgents had fled with their weapons and ammunition. One NATO soldier has died in the conflict but they have not yet released a name or force.
By ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Writer Alfred De Montesquiou, Associated Press Writer –
MARJAH, Afghanistan –http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/asia/16intel.ht...After a fierce gunfight, U.S. Marines seized a strongly defended compound Friday that appears to have been a Taliban headquarters — complete with photos of fighters posing with their weapons, dozens of Taliban-issued ID cards and graduation diplomas from a training camp in Pakistan.
Again, I can't say it enough, I love it that Cheney was whining about Obama's strategies just this past Sunday. Then, as a Valentine's Day present to , two days later the NYT breaks the story about the days-earlier capture of the Taliban's #2.
Then yesterday we hear that two more Taliban leaders have been
captured.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/world/asia/19taliban....
And now this...
"...Really, I couldn't have said it better than MinistryOfTruth's Recommended diary: "President Obama has caught more Taliban Leaders in 1 month than Bush/Cheney did in 6 years...
MORE AT:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/19/838750/-Breakin...
Pakistan refuses to hand over Baradar, limits US access to him.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...an-afghanistan
Given the historical reticence of Pakistan to cooperate with the US in this area, I wonder what is really behind this move. Are the Pakistanis wanting to quiet the Talibanis in Pakistan, hoping that this says they are 'better off here (in Pakistan) than in Afghanistan or US'? Or are they saying the opposite?
Pakistan has been completely schizoid on this issue with us, even long before we invaded Iraq. They have always been so pre-occupied with India and the Casmir-border area that everything was secondary until the Taliban began blowing up parts of Pakistan itself.
Smart move. They have no problems peeling back fingernails to get info.
interrogate the bas just to the point he doesn't fall over the brink of death.
Jealous of Pakistan? Maybe you should move there.
Maybe we should bring back waterboarding instead of letting other countires do it for us. You think? Maybe? Shouldn't we stop acting like a bunch of pussies?
self de3termining with saddam in power?
Waterboarding didn't work.
One of the strengths of MK Bhadrakumar is making the Pakistani position clearer. Their interest in Afghanistan predates ours; my sense is that the ISI and the Pakistani army, used to puppets and toadies, resented Baradar's independence and his aspirational place in the parley of Taliban with Karzai that must occur, if any cessation of hostilities is to result.
No. They are only pursuing their own perceived interests. They are incongruous with ours and provoke some bafflement on that account, but that ought to be expected. Their alliance with us, as ours with them, is purely expedient. That the Pakistanis show a decided preference for their own aims -- which for any normal American (including yours truly) are not easy to understand -- is not schizoid.
On the contrary, it demonstrates the cunning not only of self-preservation, but of self-promotion. Pakistan is seeking to find its own ends in the conflict. As we would in their place, and we do in ours.
In the interest of perspective I would point out that the Pakistani deference wrt to Predator strikes by their putative ally within their own borders, would never, never be reciprocated by us.
Afghanistan is a proxy war, but tribal relations predate all that. Pakistan has its own interests in Afghanistan apart from India. It seems to me that MK Bhadrakumar's take right now is that the hand of Pakistan, politically and socially, is beating out our military tactics.
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Basically, the MK Bhadrakumar gloss is that Pakistan appears to be outmaneuvering the USA strategically in Afghanistan.
the media how they get access to sensitive information b4 a mission is carried out
I take it back, jack. I know that what you really meant is that you wish our police and our justice system were more like Pakistan's.Jealous of Pakistan? Maybe you should move there.
With all due disrespect, that.
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