Judge Keeps His Word to Immigrant Who Kept His

[Wild Cobra]

Under the 19th-century legal doctrine still at the heart of much of modern immigration law, however, neither detention nor deportation counts as punishment, just as administrative remedies for the failure to exclude an undesirable foreigner in the first place, experts say. The definition of undesirability has changed over time, but the 1996 laws eliminated most case-by-case judgment in favor of expanded categories of criminal convictions....


Mr. Wu’s mother, Floren Wu-Li, 57, blames herself. Interviewed in the tiny sixth-floor walkup on Spring Street where Mr. Wu lived with his fiancée, she acknowledged that he would have derived citizenship if she had secured it for herself while he was still a minor. But she was naturalized only four years ago, when she was allowed to take the test in Chinese...



To Judge Corriero, the case shows the long reach of laws that force judges to impose indelible convictions on adolescents — often, as in Mr. Wu’s case, based on guilty pleas made without knowledge of the dire immigration consequences to follow....

Efforts to free Mr. Wu, championed by the New York chapter of OCA, an Asian-American civil rights organization, now include a motion to vacate his 1996 guilty plea as legally defective because his lawyer wrongly advised him that it would not affect his green card. The group’s president, Elizabeth OuYang, also plans on Friday to meet with Peter Kiernan, counsel to the governor, to discuss the pe ion for a pardon, which Mr. Kiernan said was “being seriously considered.”

I made it easy for you. Here are some key excerpts:

No Sherlock. I did read it. Think not agreeing to the plea would have made a difference? He probably would have served longer.

The fact is, if he was no longer eligible for staying in the USA after the crime, the judicial system failed then, to have him deported.

Spin it how ever you want. Somehow, he no longer fit the criteria to be here legally. The best chance he has is to make a case that the "ex-post-facto" law doesn't apply for him.

Pretending to have guns in the commission of a crime. He should have been gone long ago. Too bad we can't deport citizens for similar crimes.

[Winehole23]

Too bad we can't deport citizens for similar crimes.

To whom should we deport them?

Summary execution would be much more expeditious, don't you think?

[spursncowboys]

I wonder why he doesn't get political asylum? He should just start denouncing the chinese govt.

[Wild Cobra]

To whom should we deport them?

Summary execution would be much more expeditious, don't you think?

They sure would be.

[Shastafarian]

No Sherlock. I did read it.

Before or after your first post in the thread?

Think not agreeing to the plea would have made a difference? He probably would have served longer.

It's not about whether he agreed to a plea or not autodidact. It's about how he was being charged.

The fact is, if he was no longer eligible for staying in the USA after the crime, the judicial system failed then, to have him deported.

Irrelevant. He wasn't deported. He's here now.

Spin it how ever you want. Somehow, he no longer fit the criteria to be here legally. The best chance he has is to make a case that the "ex-post-facto" law doesn't apply for him.

I'm not spinning it at all.

Pretending to have guns in the commission of a crime. He should have been gone long ago. Too bad we can't deport citizens for similar crimes.

[Winehole23]

They sure would be.

Good thing expeditiousness isn't everything, eh? Those pesky, fun killing principles can ruin all the spirited hijinx.

[Wild Cobra]

Good thing expeditiousness isn't everything, eh? Those pesky, fun killing principles can ruin all the spirited hijinx.

LOL...

Just remember, it was you who interjected they would be expeditious. I agree they would, but I don't agree with summary judgment. That's one thing we fought the revolutionary war against.

[Wild Cobra]

Shasta, you're a real dip . I have explained myself, and you apparently cannot grasp what I say. I give up with you.

[Shastafarian]

Shasta, you're a real dip . I have explained myself, and you apparently cannot grasp what I say. I give up with you.

I perfectly grasp what you're saying. You're just completely wrong.