I'm not rockymtnfan and have no idea who the he is.
And I apologize to anyone if they think I'm a homer. I'm not. Can't convince you guys of that because you haven't known me for long. If I felt the calls had went the other way, you'd see me saying the Nuggets caught major breaks.
Again, I don't care what other people think. I know basketball inside and out. What I saw last night was ridiculous. The entire second half was a joke. AT one point in the third quarter the Nuggets had 8 fouls to the Spurs 1, despite being pushed in the back on rebounds nearly every possession.
It didn't get much better from there on out. Like I said before, I don't care what you think of me. If you think I'm a whiner and a homer who can't see the light. Fine. It's no problem to me. You have no idea of my history or who I am so I pretty much expect you to think like that. All I can tell you is what I watched last night and the replay I'm watching now isn't making it easier. I look at TD getting an offensive rebound off a missed FT where Camby is simply shoved out of the way.
I look at Melo just getting mugged three times in a row. I see Earl getting shoved nearly everytime he touches the ball without a call and then getting called for a touch foul outside the three point line sending TP to the line for two.
I don't believe for a second that the Spurs fans who saw the Dallas fiasco a few years ago or some of the Laker games you were ripped at by the refs, weren't on this very board pitching a fit about it. And you had every right to be.
The irony here is that I'm being called a classless whiner, when I'm posting in a thread where the first six posts were the definition of the word "classless."
I was happy Karl said what he said. It needed to be said. Whatever you guys may think, it needed to be said.
I doubt very seriously that he's whining behind closed doors. He put the loss behind him last night and is making adjustments.
Don't think it matter though. Nuggets aren't winning another game in SA. Last night ended the series IMO.
Thus George Karl = Phil Jackson light.
Phil used to pull that also. Stop blaming the refs and call your team out nationally. He should look at KMart who's one of the biggest asses in the NBA. I thought he was when he was in NJ also.
Karl's a low class whiney . What he said about Manu was totally classless. There's a reaon just about every palyer from the US WC team hated his guts. At least you have one Denver reporter who got it right.
props to Troy, he had several good takes. Don't expect fairplay by other team's fan when starting threads like that... it's like calling the trolls more than respectable fans like this one.
On behalf of some of our more enthusiastic posters I apoligize.
In the short time you've been on our board you have brought a nice second person point of veiw on behalf of the Denver side, without being demeaning or belittling.
Don't judge the whole on the actions of a few. Your comments are appreciated.
Believe me we've have some opposing views you would not believe.
I respect you Troy seriously, it takes some balls to show up and take the heat. Although I can't believe you agree with all Karl said in the post-game conference. I mean, I seriously disaprove of wha he said about Manu. Not cool at all.
No, it's showing the trolls for who they really are. Troy had the courage to come in here after a tough loss and give articulate takes on the state of the series and of his team. The absence of posters like Phonzie and warri0r so far is beginning to confirm my su ions about them.
What's the matter with you, man?
I actually think the calls were fair. Denver probably got a slight advantage. The problem was the crowd booed EVERYTHING. I was very surprised at how unsportsmanlike they acted. Some of the calls were understandable to be booed, but when our players had the ball at the opening possesions, they booed us. Thats not sportsmanlike. They even started chanting "Bull S***" at one point. That shocked me. I think the fans just overreacted a lot. Again, some of the calls by the refs could have been bad against them, but whhen you say you lost because of the refs( and thats coming from George Karl and Kenyon Martin), thats just sad. I am very proud of how our guys never blame any player or ref for a loss or whatever. But Troy, thanks for being a good sport even when your team didn't win. Its appreciated.
ok understand the purpose... you forgot to name melo15, the stupid guy that brags off on his board for trolling this one. what an idiot, he cant even understand how a non factor he is.
Cara you were ok too so far but Troy really had interesting takes...
I agree Kori. The first half, the Spurs got shafted on almost ever call. TP got dinged with a couple of BS travelling calls. And then there was the ticky-tack crap on Duncan while Parker was getting mugged on the other end.
TroyF, the refs took Tim out of the game for you, and he never got into a rhythm as a result. You guys went to the line 30 times, we went 28. The difference was, Denver shot a Spur-like 57% from the line. I imagine if Denver had shot their team average, they would have won. The refs can only do so much.
But aside from the free-throw shooting, what beat you guys was your inability to completely execute your game plan. You set out to shut down the Spurs interior scoring ala the 2004 Lakers. Denver did a decent job on Parker, who never really did anything. Tim was never a factor. Two out of three ain't bad. Except in the case of Manu Ginobili. Getting physical doesn't work with him, because he apparently feeds off of it. Denver needed to keep him out of the lane, and as Camby pointed out, they couldn't get it done.
But forget Manu's penetrating scores, interior foul draws and free throws for a moment.
Karl's plan was to make the Spurs win from the outside. That's a gamble with Horry, Udrih and Ginobili, and it wasn't one that paid off. The Spurs shot 6 of 18 from the arc, which isn't great, but the shots were well timed and zapped every run you had. Your bigs were in the east for the last few years, but they should know now about Robert Horry.
So, dude, I don't blame you for being pissed, and I'm sorry we have some 14 year olds in this forum who are assholes, but the net of it is, the Spurs played the same Spur defensive scheme they've played since Pop got here, and Denver couldn't run. When the Nuggets got to the line, they clanked too often. SA on the other hand overcame Karl's well-publicized game plan of shutting down the paint and making SA hit from the outside.
2-1.
It doesn't take to show up and take heat through the internet...Man, I'd show up in any teams forum and take heat, what difference does it make, Troy doesn't know any of us personally...
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