Marijuana Use Can Up Psychosis Risk

[argginmanuoblifaniac]

Define mental health.

I'd say most of the visionary thinkers, inventors, artists and geniuses had what would qualify as mental illnesses under our current definitions of the word. Most of them ostracized or persecuted then, exactly as they would be now, by those that decide just what is, and what isn't, mental health. The so called normal, mentally healthy people. The productive, upstanding members of their societies.

Just because pot interferes with the programming of becoming a happy little worker drone who believes and does exactly as he's told doesn't mean it's making you mentally ill.


I hear sounds at a frequency of 13000 hertz, my 6 year old niece can hear them all the way up 20000 hertz, as far as I am concerned, she's hallucinating when she hears those noises.

To truly be able to determine just what cons utes mental health, we would have to have complete understanding of the human brain and the reality in which it operates, which we do not.

The man who had perhaps the greatest understanding of our reality, in terms of the laws that define it, Albert Einstein, is now widely believed to have had Asperger's syndrome by those with a qualified opinion, a condition that often leads to social otracization. He was reclusive and difficult understand for most people considered normal. Yet was he the mentally ill person?


You RuffNReady, I can take one look at your posting history, which has a decided slant towards hyper sensitivity. Probably much more sensitive than the typical individual. Does this make you mentally ill? Probably not. All one has to do is look at your picture and see you are obviously extremely thin and the reason for your sensitivity becomes perfectly clear. You are sensitive because your nervous system is a much larger part of your being than it is for a typical person.


Mental illnesses are prevalent enough in every society on this planet, to where they obviously are a very normal part of being human. Not abnormal at all. Since our ultimate chances of survival as a species lie in our ability to adapt, in our genetic variance, in the varying ways we can percieve reality at the individual level, I don't think there truly is any such thing as mental illness except on an extremely small scale, and if there is it is hardly the domain of the pot smokers.

I can look at schizophrenia and see a very obvious adaptive surivival principal that underwrites it, it's a means of coping with an uncopeable reality. It is a tribute to the power of the mind, not the weakness or illness of it, and the fact many schizophrenics have unusual talents to go along with their schizophrenia stands testament to this fact.

Sure there are some shizophrenics that are extremely dangerous to others, although probably not as many as there are non-schizophrenics, ditto potheads and non-potheads.

I mean it isn't the potheads starting all the wars, leading all the genocides etc.

[PuttPutt]

I must be freakin nuts then!!

[Fillmoe]

whats the percentage experimenting with other drugs?

[The Reckoning]

when you have over 50% of the populace trying pot at some point of their life and that populace usually being the more "open-minded," of course there's going to be some correlation.

[mookie2001]

But deeeeed

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Define mental health.

I'd say most of the visionary thinkers, inventors, artists and geniuses had what would qualify as mental illnesses under our current definitions of the word. Most of them ostracized or persecuted then, exactly as they would be now, by those that decide just what is, and what isn't, mental health. The so called normal, mentally healthy people. The productive, upstanding members of their societies.

Just because pot interferes with the programming of becoming a happy little worker drone who believes and does exactly as he's told doesn't mean it's making you mentally ill.


I hear sounds at a frequency of 13000 hertz, my 6 year old niece can hear them all the way up 20000 hertz, as far as I am concerned, she's hallucinating when she hears those noises.

To truly be able to determine just what cons utes mental health, we would have to have complete understanding of the human brain and the reality in which it operates, which we do not.

The man who had perhaps the greatest understanding of our reality, in terms of the laws that define it, Albert Einstein, is now widely believed to have had Asperger's syndrome by those with a qualified opinion, a condition that often leads to social otracization. He was reclusive and difficult understand for most people considered normal. Yet was he the mentally ill person?


You RuffNReady, I can take one look at your posting history, which has a decided slant towards hyper sensitivity. Probably much more sensitive than the typical individual. Does this make you mentally ill? Probably not. All one has to do is look at your picture and see you are obviously extremely thin and the reason for your sensitivity becomes perfectly clear. You are sensitive because your nervous system is a much larger part of your being than it is for a typical person.


Mental illnesses are prevalent enough in every society on this planet, to where they obviously are a very normal part of being human. Not abnormal at all. Since our ultimate chances of survival as a species lie in our ability to adapt, in our genetic variance, in the varying ways we can percieve reality at the individual level, I don't think there truly is any such thing as mental illness except on an extremely small scale, and if there is it is hardly the domain of the pot smokers.

I can look at schizophrenia and see a very obvious adaptive surivival principal that underwrites it, it's a means of coping with an uncopeable reality. It is a tribute to the power of the mind, not the weakness or illness of it, and the fact many schizophrenics have unusual talents to go along with their schizophrenia stands testament to this fact.

Sure there are some shizophrenics that are extremely dangerous to others, although probably not as many as there are non-schizophrenics, ditto potheads and non-potheads.

I mean it isn't the potheads starting all the wars, leading all the genocides etc.

You've been stalking me?

Actually, I'm not "extremely thin" at all. I have quite broad shoulders and weigh 103kgs. I am sensitive, but it has absolutely nothing to do with "nervous system is a much larger part of your being than it is for a typical person". I am sensitive just like my father. Research has shown that most personality traits are at least partly genetically determined.

Not trying to be insulting, but most of your post is anti-scientific drivel, and yet at the same time you refer to some of the greatest scientists of all time. I'll trust double-blind, peer-reviewed science, and that tells us that smoking pot when your brain is still developing vastly increases your likelihood of depression, bipolar, and a raft of other mental disorders.

I will agree with you that "mental illness" is over-diagnosed today, but pretending that most mental illness is simply eccentricity (which is basically what you said in your post) is insulting to all of the people who deal with destructive mental illnesses every day. I am friends with people with chronic anxiety disorder, clinical depression, and bi-polar, and they are not simply eccentric people - they struggle every day with a brain that won't work with them. I have personally suffered from depression, and it is REAL, not some eccentricity.

Oh, and although we do not entirely understand the brain, medical scanning technology has unlocked a lot of its secrets. We can now visualise the chemical processes that cause many disorders. I think you ought to catch up with the 21st century.

[ynh]

Honestly most of the people that I still talk to from H.S (I'm 29) that I use to smoke with all the time just get paranoid anymore when they smoke, myself included.

For whatever reason we all use to get the goofy high then the longer we smoked it just turned into paranoia... whether this is because we had more to lose in life if we got caught I'm not sure.. but I you couldn't pay me to smoke a joint again and I use to be a very big pot head. So I can believe what they say.

[greyforest]

I smoke weed occasionally. I am not against smoking weed, but facts are facts. It isnt supposed to be in your system.

I take aspirin occasionally. I am not against taking aspirin, but facts are facts. It isnt supposed to be in your system.