Mexico drug war going nuts in the valley...

[Chingo Bling]

Thas some bullchit man. I can't even go back to Tamaulipas because of the putos fighting.

[The Gemini Method]

That's interesting---I did wonder when I posted that if maybe it's just that because of the increasing violence in Mexico, we're just not hearing about Colombia.

Ever since the death of Pablo Escobar and the downfall of the Cali cartel, the Mexicans have stepped up their influence in the narcotics trade. At first, they would work for the Columbians to move the product northward into our country. When things got a little too uncontrollable for the Columbians, they allowed the Mexicans to start taking over the trade. That's when you had Felix-Arellano (Tijuana Cartel), Chapo Guzman (Sinaloa Cartel), and the Gulf Cartel vying for top-dog in the cocaine, heroin, and meth biz.

[CosmicCowboy]

You can't believe ANYTHING the Mexican officials and press say. The officials intentionally downplay everything and the Zetas have put the word out for a press blackout and anyone who reports on it will be killed. The Zetas (long time paramilitary enforcers for the cartels, many who were ex-military special forces etc) have gotten too powerful and the gulf cartel has declared war and is trying to wipe them out.

[The Gemini Method]

You can't believe ANYTHING the Mexican officials and press say. The officials intentionally downplay everything and the Zetas have put the word out for a press blackout and anyone who reports on it will be killed.

Would you blame them? I mean, if you say something remotely taken out of favorable view of the Zetas or any other cartel, you're going to end up in a oil drum of acid/lye. There's no way if I'm a journalist I can't be cognizant of what's going on, but it is basically survival. Crazy sh$% is afoot!

[Stringer_Bell]

Oh so Chapo Guzman has more allies...

Considering The Gulf is allied with his old partners that blew his son up with grenade launchers, I assume Chapo won't kick it with his new friends for long. Los Zetas are apparently just loaded with guns and some international ties, so it looks like "enemy of my enemy is my friend" and the smaller guys ganging up on the bigger guy. Fascinating world, this drug war.

PS: Is it wrong for us to choose a side?

[gatoloco]

they need to send in Machete!

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn... I have a friend headed to Monterey Thursday, I better warn him.

Tell him to paint a red X on his back window. That means he is with the CdG (gulf cartel) so they will leave him alone.

[The Gemini Method]

Considering The Gulf is allied with his old partners that blew his son up with grenade launchers, I assume Chapo won't kick it with his new friends for long. Los Zetas are apparently just loaded with guns and some international ties, so it looks like "enemy of my enemy is my friend" and the smaller guys ganging up on the bigger guy. Fascinating world, this drug war.

PS: Is it wrong for us to choose a side?

True enough...but business is business and if it meant to eliminate one enemy, then I'm sure Chapo would be all for it. It won't be far from his mind to whom he is teamed up with at this point, so it'll just perpetuate the future violence for both Mexico and our country esp. along the border.

There is an article on LA Times that focuses on a different kind of "dealer" that has been making major inroads into middle America. It is a different kind of operation...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...0,674979.story

[Whisky Dog]

I knew Osiel ran in the gulf back when I was there, but I didn't know the Zetas turned on the Gulf C. That's bad news for everyone in the valley and tamps.

[El Guapo]

this is just kid stuff amigos!

you should have seen the that went down in Santa Poco!

[El Guapo]

[CosmicCowboy]

I knew Osiel ran in the gulf back when I was there, but I didn't know the Zetas turned on the Gulf C. That's bad news for everyone in the valley and tamps.

Osiel was the trigger for the hitting the fan. He only got 25 years from the Feds last week in Houston and the assumption is he made a deal and sang his ass off. Names, dates, routes, etc. CdG is PISSED off.

[lil_penny]

I'm looking to travel to nuevo laredo next month I hear its beautiful there if you don't mind a little machine gun fire and rocket launchers.

[Whisky Dog]

Osiel was the trigger for the hitting the fan. He only got 25 years from the Feds last week in Houston and the assumption is he made a deal and sang his ass off. Names, dates, routes, etc. CdG is PISSED off.

Crazy. Dude should never have tried to take on the DEA with brute force over one informant. Should have looked at what happened to Pablo when he flaunted the US govt. Funny that events from 11 yrs ago are setting this all off now.

[mookie2001]

I wouldn't be afraid, unless you go looking to buy drugs, fight, wave cash around or you're a teenage girl. It's no different than Mexico years ago, im not a fed or in a gang, you could catch a stray bullet anywhere

[koriwhat]

Hopefully this doesn't mean that herb premiums increase too much or causes a drought.

it will only hurt the 7th graders and seniors who smoke. ha

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Thas some bullchit man. I can't even go back to Tamaulipas because of the putos fighting.

yo whats up Chingo? thats unfortunate man

[Blake]

I wouldn't be afraid, unless you go looking to buy drugs, fight, wave cash around or you're a teenage girl. It's no different than Mexico years ago, im not a fed or in a gang, you could catch a stray bullet anywhere

We were down in McAllen this past Thanksgiving. We were going to go over to Progreso, but relatives said that there was an open shooting in broad daylight the week before.

I've never heard of it being as bad as it is right now in the border towns.

[mookie2001]

Yeah it's bad but they didn't invent guns and gangs yesterday

When people get murdered it's for a reason, they've got better people to murder than people eating tacos and drinking beer

now if you're blonde and dress like a asshole I would think twice, but an adult tejano should have no problems


Of course some people are afraid to cruise sw military on the weekend so I can understand the hysteria

[bus driver]

if youre going to a border town and can someone pick me up some gum?

[Blake]

Yeah it's bad but they didn't invent guns and gangs yesterday

When people get murdered it's for a reason, they've got better people to murder than people eating tacos and drinking beer

now if you're blonde and dress like a asshole I would think twice, but an adult tejano should have no problems


Of course some people are afraid to cruise sw military on the weekend so I can understand the hysteria

good points.

They didn't invent war yesterday and I've always wanted to check out Afghanistan.....hotel rates are good right now.

[Sisk]

good points.

They didn't invent war yesterday and I've always wanted to check out Afghanistan.....hotel rates are good right now.

Yeah and as long as your dressed well you should "have no problems"

[mookie2001]

See that's a little different because it's a real war and you couldn't get there if you tried, also the plane trip would costs thousands, it would take an entire day of travel and 50% of us aren't afghan American



So before this Mexican cartel war in the year... I'm not sure, did you go to Mexico often and you just recently stopped?

[The Reckoning]

history shows...

mexico will NEVER get its together

[Blake]

So before this Mexican cartel war in the year... I'm not sure, did you go to Mexico often and you just recently stopped?

yup.