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No. That's not the reason.
Because they care about more than just the bottom line.
No. That's not the reason.
id think media market has more to do with it than that.
I'm glad he's gone, but I don't blame him for asking for more minutes.
He's witnessed from the front row what we saw, Pop trotting out Bogans night after night. He's probably thinking, "I can clang 3 pointers better than that!"
I'm surprised there aren't more guys complaining. Notice, how the complaints about playing time are coming from our veteran 2 guards. If a lot of people here are upset about Bogan's minutes, can you imagine what Fin and Mason are thinking?
If you believe the guys in front of you are better, it's easier to swallow the low/no playing time, but if you don't, you start questioning the coach's decisions.
I sort of understand as well. Being benched behind Bogans would make any player mad.
Ask Mason, Hairston is probably just as angry but he has been a bit more quiet about it since he is not an established player.
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"not using Finley's expiring contract in a deal that would've produced either Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons"
depends on when Michael told Pop he wanted out. before or after the deadline?
I love how Finley thinks he can contribute to a contender. Good look with that.
You dont have to preach to me about market size. Creative ownership is all about marketing and creating revenue for your team on and off the court.
And last I checked, being the country's 7th largest city is nothing to sneeze at.
Finley is at the end of his career and he wants to play... what is wrong with that ?
It is maybe his final season and he's not anymore in the Spurs plans.
Almost every Spurs fans wanted him to go before all that "drama" and now almost every Spurs fans are whining about his wish to leave.
Get over it. For me, Michael Finley is a great guy. I enjoyed watching him play for the Spurs and win a well deserved ring with them.
If another team wants to give him some playing time, good for him.
I mean, when Pop throws away great guys like Bowen, Oberto and Thomas, it's OK but when a player wants to leave, it's a scandal ???
Come on.
What did he try to say about bowen? did he act like a professional or didn't he? and why did pop roll his eyes?
And the Spurs have done quite well in that respect, working on a different level than big market teams.
San Antonio is not the 7th largest metropolitan area or media market, not by a long shot. That's Dallas/Ft. Worth.And last I checked, being the country's 7th largest city is nothing to sneeze at.
dont we come in right around 37th as far as media market though?
This.Finley is at the end of his career and he wants to play... what is wrong with that ?
It is maybe his final season and he's not anymore in the Spurs plans.
Almost every Spurs fans wanted him to go before all that "drama" and now almost every Spurs fans are whining about his wish to leave.
Get over it. For me, Michael Finley is a great guy. I enjoyed watching him play for the Spurs and win a well deserved ring with them.
If another team wants to give him some playing time, good for him.
I mean, when Pop throws away great guys like Bowen, Oberto and Thomas, it's OK but when a player wants to leave, it's a scandal ???
Come on.
It's true. Last I heard, San Antontio was listed somewhere in the 30's in terms of media market size. This despite being a top 10 city in terms of size. Also corporate sponsorship is severely lacking.
The problem now is with apparent lean times ahead and the championship window now closed, the team could see a decline at the box office. This team can't afford several years of mediocrity or even losing seasons. However, after Duncan hangs it up, there is a high probability that that's all there will be.
They can survive. They just can't spend the way they have in the past -- few NBA teams can. Expecting them to do so even next season is unrealistic. That means the choice wasn't keeping Finley, Mason and Bonner over getting Salmons and Thomas. The choice was between Salmons and Thomas and being able to make an attempt at keeping Manu. If you can prove that those players would have the same value as Manu to the Spurs as a business, you might have an argument.
Exactly! I agree with your take on Hairston and I'd say the same for Mahinmi. Hopefully, this same scenario doesn't spread to the F/C position if Bonner gets more minutes over McDyess and Blair.
what a
The biggest shock here is that Harvey didn't le the article "Exit Wound? Finley's Exit"
When people here a player wants out they get pretty pissed around here
The complaints are warranted from the fans here..
I understand Finley wanting to play and all, that's natural, but it's the cir stances..his agent talked to other teams LOL..Finley has been getting unwarranted minutes for YEARS now, despite being one of the worst all-around players in the NBA, and he has the balls to ask for more minutes?! LOL..
I'm not going to hate on him for that, I'm going to laugh about it..it's funny more than anything..
there's no way somebody can be that delusional about his worth right now..he can't actually believe he's going to get minutes anywhere else..he's arguably the worst all-around player in the NBA at this point of his career..
the only way I'll hate on Finley for this is if he's leaving the Spurs so he can have a better chance at a ring..that would be low, considering he came here to have a better chance at a ring in the first place..what right does he have to just ask to leave so he can go to a better team?..
if that's the case, then I'll hate on him..if it's for more minutes, I'll just laugh, because it's sad that he's so delusional, which is the case for a lot of over the athletes..
Hopefully TP can concentrate on basketball instead of all that crap...
We need everybody on the same page if we're going to make a push.
As far as Finley and Pop, well, it's history now. I think looking back Bowen deserved as much praise if not more for his professionalism and devotion to the team. But time will take care of giving credits where they're due.
In hindsight, giving Fin a two year extension with a player option for the second season was a mistake. Everybody makes mistakes though. Time to move on.
Analogy
I once had a girlfriend, hot philipian shorty.
SHe was dope, but too naive for me and wasn't a trophy in my book. So I slightly flirted with this half german, half cuban gymnast shorty that was the bomb, to test waters. So, I broke up with the pinay and got with the gymnast since I had a go ahead before I was actually single. Finely I feel you, but that was wrong!! We are both assholes. In my case though. The gymnast looked liked the manstealer.
For the record, San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the country, but the 28th largest metropolitan area and the 37th largest television market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_o...tistical_Areas
http://www.tvjobs.com/cgi-bin/markets/market2.cgi
I appreciate what he did for my Spurs, things don't always end pretty, but it seems like if they guy wanted to leave, let him go, why Buck has to dig up all this BS really serves no purpose. I keep hearing that Buck is Pop's tool, stuff like this makes me think that it's true.
It's only natural since the team is not performing up to the standards they have in recent years that we would hear more grumbling from players about playing time.
Winning goes a long way toward soothing hurt feelings but when the losses mount up, guys get more sensitive about playing time.
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