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  1. #26
    Big Lou
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    SA - Texas
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    429
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    College
    UTSA Roadrunners
    Austin only cares for UT athletics. Pro sports are an afterthought in the city of Austin. Anybody who believes otherwise is smoking crack.

  2. #27
    Believe. blaze89's Avatar
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    605
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    I have a hard time believing the NFL would want San Antonio in their league. As far as McCombs, he would have had a hard time getting the Vikings to leave Minnesota because of the lease and he knows (although he won't admit it) the Alamodome is out of date and serious need of renovation and improvment. I mean, I am certain he wanted to use San Antonio as a bargaining chip (nothing wrong with that) to work something out with Minnesota, especially if San Antonio was willing to offer the heavens.

    San Antonio has not done anything to attract itself to the NFL, politically it's cosmetic at best (remember Howard Peak celebrating the naming of the Houston Texans ), a supposively rabid football town, any football team or event that has called San Antonio home has not drawn support. Remember the pre-season games in the 90s, some drew below 30,000, which prompted a reported from USAToday to write, scratch off San Antonio off the expansion list. Recently, the Vikings drew 48,000 but tickets were on sale for a year and was blacked out locally.

    We say we want the NFL but really haven't done anything to get their attention in terms of prior football attendance (preseason NFL, CFL, WLAF, USFL) and the city's cosmetic approach to the situation. Supposively, we are trying to get the NFLs attention and we aren't even doing that, it's been all talk.

    Sure we have the Alamo Bowl but clearly it isn't enough.

    Attendance may not be a problem but we know that it's all about the suites. The Browns had great attendence but Modell took the Browns to Baltimore because of lack of city support for a stadium, a stadium that was way, way outdated and Baltimore was offering a deal he couldn't refuse.

    The NFL is now a corporate game and we don't have the suites or the companies to sustain an NFL team. It's not like Green Bay or Minnesota where you have the entire state supporting your team.

    Since the dome was built, there has been four NFL teams relocating (Rams, Raiders, Browns, Oilers) and none of them took San Antonio seriously.

    As far as Austin, the city belongs to UT Longhorns, no way would they support a San Antonio team.

    I have not heard from anyone who can realisticly point out what San Antonio has to offer the NFL and why should the NFL should come here.

  3. #28
    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
    Post Count
    1,439
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Out of the 30 largest metro areas according to the 2000 census, several cities (is that the right word?) larger than SA are without NFL teams.

    Los Angeles (2), population 16,373,645

    Portland (23), population 2,265,223

    Sacramento (25), population 1,796,857

    Milwaukee (27, and yes, I know about Green Bay), population 1,689,572

    Orlando (28), population 1,644,561

    San Antonio (29), population 1,592,383

    Norfolk (30), population 1,569,541

    Is Portland considered in Seattle's territory? Sacto in Oakland or San Francisco's? Orlando in Tampa's?

    Also sort of weird...Charlotte and Jacksonville aren't in the top 30. I understand Carolina is a bit of a regional franchise.

  4. #29
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    4,912
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    According to the Census, San Antonio's 2004 Metro population is 1,854,050.

    1 New York-Newark-Edison, NY-NJ-PA 18709802
    2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 12925330
    3 Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI 9391515
    4 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 5800614
    5 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 5700256
    6 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach, FL 5361723
    7 Houston-Baytown-Sugar Land, TX 5180443
    8 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 5139549
    9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 4708297
    10 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 4493165
    11 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 4424649
    12 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 4153870
    13 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 3793081
    14 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 3715360
    15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 3166828
    16 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 3116206
    17 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 2931714
    18 St. Louis, MO-IL 2764054
    19 Baltimore-Towson, MD 2639213
    20 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 2587967
    21 Pittsburgh, PA 2401575
    22 Denver-Aurora, CO 2287245
    23 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 2137073
    24 Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA 2064336
    25 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 2058221
    26 Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA 2016702
    27 Kansas City, MO-KS 1925319
    28 Orlando, FL 1861707
    29 San Antonio, TX 1854050

  5. #30
    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
    Post Count
    1,439
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    One of these two studies is full of . How did LA have a 3.5M population swing?

  6. #31
    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio, TX
    Post Count
    5,326
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    The Rams came very close to moving here instead of St. Louise. Red refused to give up concessions at the dome, so Georgia went to St. Louise instead.

    Also, the Buccaneers actually had everything ready to go to move here had the election to build that Pirate ship they play in not gone their way.

    And Carolina was a favor returned to the dude who owns them, whose bank floated beau coup loans to keep the NFL rolling during the strike a few years before they got the team.

  7. #32
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    4,912
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    .

  8. #33
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    4,912
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    One of these two studies is full of . How did LA have a 3.5M population swing?
    Because of number 13.

    No longer does the Census consider Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario part of the LA CMSA. Riverside is a metro in itself now. Even though LA is just one big ass suburb.

  9. #34
    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
    Post Count
    1,439
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Because of number 13.

    No longer does the Census consider Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario part of the LA CMSA. Riverside is a metro in itself now. Even though LA is just one big ass suburb.

    Oh, I didn't catch that. Thanks.

  10. #35
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
    Post Count
    20,267
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    New York is too ing big......

  11. #36
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    4,912
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    New York too big?

    Mexico City metro is almost 30 million

    Tokyo metro is over 30 million.

  12. #37
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
    Post Count
    20,267
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    New York too big?

    Mexico City metro is almost 30 million

    Tokyo metro is over 30 million.
    They are way toooooo big.

    Imagine living in Tokyo....

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