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    z0sa with his, "I reserve the right to tell people what their opinions should be" at ude again. And if they argue, well, "No" is the best retort in the history of the universe. It's unassailable!

    So far, MW2 has been far glitcher than the first ever was. Which is amazing, considering Infinity Ward now has the experience as a developer that should keep glitches like this under control. Yet they keep popping up.

    This is a $60 PC game that lists "mouse and keyboard control" as an exclusive feature. That was a standard feature in PC games in oh, I don't know, 1996?

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/10/ne...nto-the-flash/

    http://www.break.com/game-trailers/g...it---100-kills

    http://www.damnlag.com/columns/5-sil...ipulation.html

    You're the obtuse one. You are stuck on 4.


    So he's obtuse because he prefers a different game than you?

    I guess there are TONS of obtuse gamers then. I'm still CoD4ing 3-5 times a week on my clan server, with 90+ custom maps in constant rotation, with another 120-150 in the reserve server. There were 24/24 people on last night. And it's still a blast. So we have roughly 5 times more maps on the server than both Modern Warfare games do.

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    I guess there are TONS of obtuse gamers then. I'm still CoD4ing 3-5 times a week on my clan server, with 90+ custom maps in constant rotation, with another 120-150 in the reserve server. There were 24/24 people on last night. And it's still a blast. So we have roughly 5 times more maps on the server than both Modern Warfare games do.
    Simply cahnge COD4 to WaW and you have my experience nailed, maybe not quite as many maps though

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    lol at you Zosa. And I quote, The IW Studio Heads, from their lawsuit filed against Activision today:
    West and Zampella were not as eager as Activision to jump into the development of Modern Warfare 2. Despite assurances from Activision that West and Zampella would have complete freedom to run Infinity Ward as an independent studio, Activision had begun to intrude on Infinity Ward's ability to create quality games. For example, Activision forced Infinity Ward's employees to continue to produce the game at a breakneck pace under aggressive schedules, and both West and Zampella were concerned that Activision was emphasizing quan y over quality.
    lol lol lol at you zosa, but let me guess, you opinion and insight is far more valid than Call of Duty's creators?

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    I am XBOX LIVE ONLY MW2 gamer, so any PC issues you guys have, don't bother me on xbox. I have zero trouble connecting to games, so it must be PC only issue.


    That because you're acting re ed and refuse to understand why things like the Danger close OMA,
    Ok, I see how this could upset you. I have a class that has this set-up too, and I use it on Domination to defend flag captures, but still, I never get upset at people who do it.

    The strategy is, kill the defender who is noob tubing, then capture the flags. Or if it's deathmatch, kill the guy.

    I don't know, I never have a problem killing the guy, so it's never bothered me. I have never once been in a game and said "OMFG THIS NOOB TUBER IS PISSING ME OFF!!!"....

    Tac Insert boosting,
    Again, I made a thread on the xbox mw2 forums complaining about this during the first week of release. I am with you BUT

    how does this make MW2 a ty failure? These are people exploiting the game to cheat and it's 99% of the time done in my favorite playlist, Free For All. So I have experience with this. I complain but I don't bash MW2 as a result?

    Basically, I have a custom class specifically for nuke boosters. Assault rifle with Noob tube, grenade launcher as 2ndary, Marathon, Danger close, SitRep as the perks. Now go kill them, very easy. Once they reach 7 kills and they die one time, they can no longer get a nuke.

    Again, I don't like it either, but to bash MW2 over it? Seems nitpicky and you are diverting the blame away from the players onto IW unfairly.


    environment glitches,
    What? I am prestige 5 and I have only seen 1 environment issue.

    If I stand too close to some walls, my body sticks out on the other side of the wall, giving me away to the enemy.

    the only recently resolved care package bull
    It's fixed, so no point in listing that one. Good job IW for fixing it, but you don't credit that though.

    and the new speed glitch,
    Speed glitch??? PC only I guess.


    Nevermind the perk that teleports you across 20 feet so can stab somebody, at a speed faster than any internet connection on earth. Literally, it's a perk that creates lag in order to function.
    You mean Commando, right? Again, zero issues with commando on my side.


    (besides the poor map design
    This is the only one I agree with. The maps are not as good as MW1 maps. I was already bored with these maps within 2 weeks of release.

    Certain silencers don't work.
    They work for me. PC only issue I guess.

    The hit box detection is horrible
    I never have a problem hitting people.... or have noticed any problems like this... so must be PC only issue.

    Some guns, the fal and three others, shoot down and to the right of where you're aiming.
    So compensate and adapt? What's the issue?

    Sniper frog is killing people because they're good.
    Rumor, has not been proven. I don't believe it myself. My K/D ratio is almost 2.0, and I routinely get the best scores....

    Search and Destroy is dead.
    Lol? Hardcore ricochet SnD is my 2nd favorite mode and I play it ALL THE TIME. It's not dead, I love it, reminds me of Counter-Strike. What are you talking about?

    Are you going to about team chat stuff? I support IW on disabling party chats on the 360 for SnD.

    Pavelow kills don't count toward your killstreaks.
    ok, yeah, this is bugged imo. You have to call in a pavelow, and get 1 kill BEFORE the pavelow kills anyone to make it count. And, it only works on the first pavelow called in, i believe.

    HOWEVER, I like it this way. The pavelow is too strong anyway. If the pavelow counted towards KS, I would get tons of nukes. Too unfair anyway. It's better this way.

    For three months people were walking around with twin shotguns that could shoot the distance of a football field.
    akimbo models? Yeah fixed now.

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    z0sa with his, "I reserve the right to tell people what their opinions should be" at ude again.
    Quite the opposite. Balli is clearly stating it should be "obvious why he doesn't like the game" - because it sucks, supposedly, due to a long list (that could be 3x longer) you apparently didn't read in your eagerness to insult me. I merely don't think it sucks and I'm defending it.

    As for me stating "No" in response to Balli in certain situations, it's because he simply asserted his opinion as fact. I can do the same thing and simply say no, you're wrong, my opinion is right. Same thing.

    Don't take sides just because you dislike MW2.

    So he's obtuse because he prefers a different game than you?
    It's not that. I'm drawing from previous arguments and posts we've made. He didn't like WaW for these same types of miniscule, WGAF type of reasons (reloading anims, minor glitches, unrealistic, etc). He even said he could never play the game of a developer he hates. Both new CoD games he's dropped the "It plays nothing like 4" card and stuck with it. I didn't just forget him insulting me time and time again while he told me these things, but I'm only out for a reasonable debate if Balli's going to make such outlandish claims. If he's capable.
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    lol at you Zosa. And I quote, The IW Studio Heads, from their lawsuit filed against Activision today:

    lol lol lol at you zosa, but let me guess, you opinion and insight is far more valid than Call of Duty's creators?
    What are you even loling at, dumbass?

    No one can even follow your gibberish.

    " you z0sa"

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    I've given this thread thought and you know what, it. Sorry I mentioned anything balli. Continue hating on this game for whatever reasons, it's your right. It's stupid that you post these things on an internet forum and then get defensive over people responding, but again that's your right. I won't continue.

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    MW2 was trash
    IW

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    I have fun playing MW2 but there are some things wrong with it and if you fail to see them because you have such a blast pulling off a 50:8 KDR on any maps, that's not an MP, that's a YP, your problem.

    The game pisses me off half the time.

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    COD4 is FAR superior to MW2. It could lay the biggest, messiest, nastiest brick on it, and MW2 wouldn't know what to do.

    Yes CoD is a fun series. Yes MW2 can be a fun game. But it is a home arcade experience. Run and gun is pretty much encouraged, and requires little skill.

    CoD4 was simpler, and more balanced. No class was super cheap. Anyone on your skill level could get you. Not like the crap that let's you constantly noobtube and spam killstreak perks.

    The video that CH posted up a while ago was something I experienced several times. People left the game quickly every time. I left it every time.

    If I get outplayed through skill, then I'll take it. But if someone is exploiting the system and it produces results that cause everyone to leave consistently? That's what you call a broken game.

    MW2 for PC = FAIL.

    For console, it's a decent experience other than that gay class.

    I'll take MW1 any day.

    z0sa, QFT. It's no use. Your opinions are different, and mocking someone else's while trying to show why your logic is "superior" is clearly unfruitful.

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    COD4 is FAR superior to MW2. It could lay the biggest, messiest, nastiest brick on it, and MW2 wouldn't know what to do.

    Yes CoD is a fun series. Yes MW2 can be a fun game. But it is a home arcade experience. Run and gun is pretty much encouraged, and requires little skill.

    CoD4 was simpler, and more balanced. No class was super cheap. Anyone on your skill level could get you. Not like the crap that let's you constantly noobtube and spam killstreak perks.

    The video that CH posted up a while ago was something I experienced several times. People left the game quickly every time. I left it every time.

    If I get outplayed through skill, then I'll take it. But if someone is exploiting the system and it produces results that cause everyone to leave consistently? That's what you call a broken game.

    MW2 for PC = FAIL.

    For console, it's a decent experience other than that gay class.

    I'll take MW1 any day.

    z0sa, QFT. It's no use. Your opinions are different, and mocking someone else's while trying to show why your logic is "superior" is clearly unfruitful.
    Cool story bro

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    All I know is that I waited for MW2 for most of 2009, and I ended up trading it in last month for GOW3 pre-order. The game just isn't that good.

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    Agreed with Balli on the issues with MW2.

    I will say personally what made me get rid of the game is

    the shotguns
    light weight/ marathon/ comando
    I can't be in party chat
    the mentioned glitches
    the fact that every 20 seconds there is some kill streak thing going on
    and mainly the fact it's too easy.. you can hip fire at an enemy clear across the board.. spray.. and get a head shot.
    Oh and agreed that the level designs suck ass.. though I do like the airport.

    Just my opinon but I'd rather play World at War and Bad Company 2 then MW2

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    Also not sure how people aren't having problems connecting to games.. by yourself yea there is no problem.. try connecting to a game with one or more friends and tell me how many times it takes to get you all in the same game.

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    Also not sure how people aren't having problems connecting to games.. by yourself yea there is no problem.. try connecting to a game with one or more friends and tell me how many times it takes to get you all in the same game.
    Not perfect, but I would say about 90% of the time

    We only lost one person tonight and we had a group of 6

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    I agree with Balli about all the problems but it isn't a trash game. I still play it all the time.

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    Not perfect, but I would say about 90% of the time

    We only lost one person tonight and we had a group of 6
    Really.. I guess you are lucky.. I have trouble losing people all the time.

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    Really.. I guess you are lucky.. I have trouble losing people all the time.
    Exactly. I usually played with a group of 3. The games would fail 60-70% of the time. What a joke.

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    Really.. I guess you are lucky.. I have trouble losing people all the time.
    Exactly. I usually played with a group of 3. The games would fail 60-70% of the time. What a joke.

    Yeah, I see the big issue is connections are wierd... some are just fine then where others can compare it to pulling teeth... at least its not as bad as GOW2 eesh!

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    you guys experiencing problems are on the PC right?

    cuz i have zero issues finding games with my friends and family on xbox live.

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    360 for me.

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    you guys experiencing problems are on the PC right?

    cuz i have zero issues finding games with my friends and family on xbox live.
    I know me and my group of friends have always had problems on Live.

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    I've never had trouble finding or connecting to matches, PC or xbox live. I usually have at least 1-2 buddies with me as well and we rarely experience issues..

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    On that video of the 100 kills, the guy sounds exactly like dirk4mvp.


    This game looks like garbage, just from this video. Glad I don't have it.

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    There seems to be varying degrees of debate going on with MW2 and I notice at first I would defend the game, but after reading some of these posts--I remember why I haven't played the game in months. It doesn't have the same appeal for me as did MW did. I mean, I even enjoyed playing WaW more than I ever felt comfortable with MW2. Not that I'm saying I'll never play the game, its just the way they tinkered with it took something that wasn't broken and made it broken.

    By the way, and this is kinda off-topic...is Bad Company 2 worth the money?

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