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Anyone who watched games 3 and 4 of the Spurs and Mavs series in 2006 can understand this.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-04-2010 at 02:01 AM.
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You mean the one where Nowitzki finished with 3 made field goals and with 24 free throws? This is maybe the most under the radar shady officiated game in recent memory. You got a jump shooter, who loves to shoot fade and fall away jumpers, getting to the line at a ridiculous pace? It made no sense. Sure, players like James and Wade get questionable calls, but at least they get them going to the basket. You know, the way players generally draw calls. What happened with Nowitzki defied logic.
It was as if the league had decided (probably much to their chagrin, particularly around that time when there was a perception that the league had an "image issue" and they were extremely conscious of it, so you know deep down the league probably loved everything about the Spurs: humble, hard working, team oriented, non threatening looking, international, small market, financially fiscal, etc.) that because the ratings were such a disaster in '03 and '05 that they just couldn't have the Spurs in the finals anymore, so unless they were head and shoulders above everyone else, they were not going to give them much leeway.
You look back on that series, the teams were close enough that poor officiating easily could have swung it and sure enough it did (at least partially). Of course, in the end the Spurs still should have won it. Unfortunately, the loss was self inflicted.
People are fools, though. Think about it, what is Donaghy really telling us that we didn't already know? He's conjuring up perceptions that many already have about the league, so if it comes from someone who used to be on the inside the conspiracy theorists will automatically see it as confirmation. If he had brought up a particular game or series that wasn't su ious at the time, then maybe I'd take the majority of what he's saying more seriously.
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Fixed I've had a long night ..I'm just leaving the library....caught my error sorry.
I really wish someone had copies of those games. I'd be willing to buy them.
The Big 3 attempted 52 FG's and shot 23 FT's, while Dirk went 3-9 from the field and 21-24 from the line ... disgusting . . .
Game 3 was, how you say ... abortion?
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Exactly.Not that I believe all the conspiracy theorists, but Stern was dumb to say this.
Earlier this decade, during the height of the Shaq-Kobe era in L.A., commissioner David Stern was asked what his ideal Finals matchup would be. "The Lakers versus the Lakers," he said. Stern took a lot of heat for that comment -- conspiracists have long insisted that the league smiles favorably upon the Purple and Gold -- and now tiptoes around the subject like a ballet dancer.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ct.ending0421/
Racketeer roll call, count off now....
"David Stern, present."
Idiocy.
It's funny all you stupid s believe everything Donaghy says EXCEPT for this little gem:
why's that so hard to believe, Sarver is an cheap bas
I think everything Donaghy says is a fabricated crock of (including the 2007 blurb I posted), my point is that if Spurfan is gonna take everything he says at face value then they can't ignore that.
Can't you people see Donaghy is simply saying what people want to hear in order to make money?
Suns fans seem to forget that the 2nd best game they played that whole series was the game without Amare game 5. Games 1 and 3 were won from the get go by the Spurs.
Game 4 was dominated by the Spurs, but Suns pulled out the win.
Game 5 ( the game without Amare) was the Suns 2nd best performance of the entire series out of 6 games. Suns dominated this game but like game 4 the other team prevailed in the end.
Game 6 was a dominated by the Spurs and the best team did win.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-04-2010 at 09:54 AM.
Did I not just say that I think Donaghy's story about 2007 was a crock of ? Don't try to turn this into a 2007 argument because you have no support for the re ed claim that David Stern conspires against the Spurs. The Suns' 2nd best performance in the series was the 2nd game they won, not a game they lost. Obviously one team isn't dominating if the other team wins. The fact the Suns kept game 5 close without Amare and Diaw means they probably would have won if they played, but that's irrelevant, they broke a rule so they didn't play. I'm not the one cooking up conspiracy theories about why the team I cheer for lost.
The Spurfan conspiracy theory logic is some of the most illogical bull I've ever seen. How is it that everything Donaghy says is 100% true, EXCEPT for his claim that a series was rigged for the Spurs? Why would he make up the story about Nunez but otherwise not lie at all? If Donaghy is lying about the Spurs Suns 2007 series, how is Spurfan so sure he isn't lying about anything else?
If David Stern is conspiring to ensure the Spurs lose, how is it they have 4 championships in the last 11 years? Are they just THAT good that they were able to overcome the league rigging things against them 4 different times? I'm pretty sure if David Stern hated the Spurs so much and wanted them to lose he would have been able to prevent them winning 4 championships.
validates everything I always thought.
thats why the spurs could not win back-to-back.......other forces kept them out.
Right, forces kept them from winning back to backs but had no problem letting them win every odd year. It was referees who hypnotized Manu Ginobili into fouling Dirk. It was referees who used their telepathic powers to guide Derek Fisher's .4 shot into the hoop.
its not the .4 its what made it .4(all the foul calls before) same with manu and mavs.
you are just blind. the spurs were dominate teams both times, but the refs did not allow the spurs to win games they should have easily won and put them in spot they could not overcome. then with .4 when the lakers win(by a miracle) the league was all to ready to finish them off in LA the next game. c'mon.
The refs used their telepathic powers to not call the obvious hack on Tim Duncan at the end of Game 7.
Yup, Donaghy is just saying stuff thats true no matter who says it: The NBA doesn't want small market teams in the Finals because of ratings and $$$.
Whats the most interesting about Donaghy's facebook is that even a widely disrespected and corrupt ref still gives props to the Spurs and Duncan.
This. Donaghy is just saying what conspiracy theorists want to hear so his book will sell. By fabricating a story about the 2007 Spurs Suns series Donaghy knows Suns fans who think Stern conspired against the Suns will run out and buy the book so they can read a former ref corroborate their conspiracy. So when he says, "The NBA hates the Spurs because they're a small market team" he knows Spurs fans who cry conspiracy everytime they lose to the Lakers will go spend money on his book.
That makes perfect sense. The league wanted the Lakers to win so badly that they made the game depend on Derek Fisher making a shot with .4 seconds left. The Spurs are just THAT good that they were able to keep the series compe ive when the refs were working against them.
The Pistons must have been one of the best teams of all time since obviously Stern had the refs working against them in the finals that year since LA is a bigger market, yet they STILL won.
That combined with how selfish a ballhog Kome was.
Well said.
The fact the Suns kept game 5 close without Amare and Diaw means they probably would have won if they played,
Just like those 2 losses earlier in the series, right?
All I see if you calling people illogical because they call how they see it. We were RIGHT there, contending and considered by many the FAVORITES, so it's not any kind of stretch, none whatsoever, that we could have won 2006, minimum, if the refereeing is more "consistent" according to our personal analysis of the calls.
that's the only thing you felt the need to respond to? Nice try trying to change the subject away from something that makes a lot of Spurs fans look like re ed sticks.
That accurately describes your Sun players who got off the bench.
Nothing like calling out spurfan for sour grapes then crying about your own then denying it the very same post.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you berating spurfan in this thread has a lot more to do with 2007 than you'll ever let on.
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