Oh man I just remember the game last year against the Pistons in the regular season when the whole arena was chanting "JAVIE, JAVIE, JAVIE." It was awesome.
No, Solid I'm with you on that. Javie seems to have mellowed substantially and I've noticed that he's a much better official for it. And, for whatever reason, his quarrel with David Robinson has no bearing on how he views Tim Duncan.I actually like Steve Javie, now that David is retired. Am I a bad person?
I'm generally thankful when I see Javie in the building.
NO SALVATORRE PLEASE!! I don't understand why he hates the Spurs so much... Is there some long standing feud or something?
Javie is the best in the league IMO, hes fair, and his explanations when on heard on tv make sense.
Joey Crawford and Clark are right behind him.
Mcutchen, Wunderlich, Bavetta, Salvatore are THE WORST.
Im sure we will get Bavetta tonight, missing calls, callng bad ones, and wanting to get Duncan Cheeseburgers left and right.
Wasn't there some report like two years that said that Bennett Salvatore led crews call 25% more fouls than average?
ohhh
No Jack Nies or the in moron Louis Grillo.
Joe Crawford is the f'n man. He seems to be the most ever tempered, calm cool and collected ref of all. Not only that but his entire team is top notch and instead of one official getting gung ho on the whistles the whole game they all officiate the game the same way at the same pace.
Javie and Nies...... *shudders at the thought*
After watching the Suns - Grizz series last night one of the biggest areas of concern I think the officials need to focus on in the off season is blocking/charging and the small circle. This call seems to be the most erratic by far IMO.
So true, so true. Please not Salvatore tonight.
Let us not worry about the officiating, if the spurs are agressive tonight they will get the calls because the officials will have to give it to them.
But yeah there are ing horrible refs out there and Nies leads the pack. Let's just be thankful that Hugh Hollins is no longer in the league.
My money Is on Bavetta tonight. I don't remember him being bad for us as long as we're not playing the Lakers.
I can't find that one, but Game 1 of the 2003 WCF got me looking (Cuban-style) at some officiating trends. They were rough, since I couldn't isolate for particular officials and was relying entirely on data about crews of 3, but figured with enough games, there would be some truth to the numbers. Of the 12 officials who called more than 10 games that year, here are the average numbers of total fouls called (avg fouls (games) official):
43.8 (15) D. Crawford
44.8 (12) B. Delaney
45.4 (13) B. Fryer
45.9 (14) S. Javie
46.7 (10) J. Derosa
46.8 (12) R. Garretson
47.1 (10) M. Callahan
47.2 (13) E. Rush
51.0 (12) D. Bavetta
51.4 (10) T. Washington
51.6 (13) J. Crawford
52.7 (13) B. Salvatore
The more significant finding, I thought, was this one:
after the First Round of the 2003 Playoffs, there were 7 games in which the officials called at least 54 combined fouls. (of those, 1 was an OT game and 2 more were 2OT games).
The one common denominator of the other 4: Bennett Salvatore (Game 5 of the NBA Finals, 54 fouls; Game 1 of WCF, 72; Game 5 of Dal/Sac WCSF, 57; Game 4 of SA/LA WCSF, 57). Salvatore also happened to be on the whistle for the OT game (Game 6 of Det/Phil ECSF, 61).
So of the 7 games in which there were at least 54 combined fouls, Salvatore had 5 of them. The only other games to qualify in that category each went to 2OT (Game 3 of Dal/Sac WCSF, 56 fouls (Hue Hollins, Joey Crawford, and Mike Callahan); Game 4 of NJ/Bos ECSF, 56 fouls (Bill Spooner, Hue Hollins, and Joey Crawford)).
Wasn't the Knick the ref for the lone Spurs loss at MSG in '99? It's been a while but it seems like he was.
Answer to the Bavetta question:
http://slam.canoe.ca/NBAPlayoffs99/j...a.html#summary
Game 3 1999 NBA Finals Knicks 89, Spurs 81
Officials: Bavetta, Hue Hollins, Ronnie Nunn.
Ah the infamous 2003 Free Throw Shooting Contest...
Worst officiated game I've ever watched. It wasn't about particular calls, it was a matter of completely altering the game and being consistently inconsistent.
Salvatore is doing the Houston = Dallas game. Cuban must heve given Stern a hum job to get Toots Salvatore. Anyway no Bennett in Denver .
I like Danny Crawford the best...IMO he is far and away the best...not only because the games seem fair, but because it seems like he lets the teams play for the most part and it's not a bunch of momentum killing BS fouls.
I actually agree with sentiment on Javie too...he's tough but he's actually a pretty fairminded referee, not...unless your the Lakers...I think he was the guy that ejected half the Laker team in that one game last season.
Bennet Salvatore just totally screwed the Rockets...Stackhouse knocked the ball out of Barry's hands from out of bounds...and Stack wasn't just a little out of bounds...his whole freaking body was out of bounds.
Horrible call in the most crucial moments that changed the complexion of the entire game and totally screwed the Rockets.
Bennet Salavatore should be fired from the NBA...this guy is the worst ref in the entire NBA...he always makes horrible calls in the deciding moments of games.
I hate that er...I absolutely hate him.
There goes another $100,000 Van Gundy. Bet Cuban was outraged the refs blew that call.
My guess is that he is going to referee Wednesdays nights game in SA.
I guess if you gotta have Salvatore it's best to have him in a home game.
And another $100,000 on tht up.
This was a total ref hatchet chob on the Rockets...
Either these guys are corrupt or they are incompetent...and I don't mean incompetent lighly either...I mean incompetent.
I think we should start a campaign to keep Salvatore out of the playoffs.
They just blew another call by anticipating a foul when the Rockets had Finley trapped in the corner.
Man, who's choking bigger, the refs or the Mavs?
Just no ing overtime, PLEASE.
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