if we make the playoofs it's from the no' 8 seed

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Agreed.

Just wanted to add though, that alot of these losses against good teams the Spurs have been right there but were just outplayed down the stretch. The guy that has been this team's closer for years has finally started looking like himself for the first time this year so that could help turn things around against good teams. This stretch should help determine just how much difference a healthy Manu can have.

True, but this is most certainly the time. I'm very optimistic that they can do it.

[timtonymanu]

We all know Manu, Tim, and George will bring it.

People mainly RJ need to step up. Best case scenario is that RJ adds some offense to his rebounding skills. Dice hits the jumper consistently while helping Tim in the post. Bonner needs to continue what he's doing and stay confident. Blair needs to get out of his slump. Bogans needs to try (notice i say try) to defend better. Mason needs to find his shooting stroke again. If we get most of these, we can win some of these games. RJ's part needs to happen though since it will give the most effect.

[spurs1990]

We have 18 games left. We sit at 39-25.

Here is the last 10 seasons records after 64 games and how they finished:

2009 43-21 11-7
2008 44-20 12-6
2007 46-18 12-6
2006 50-14 13-5
2005 49-15 10-8
2004 42-22 15-3
2003 46-18 14-4
2002 43-21 15-3
2001 45-19 13-5
2000 41-23 12-6

average to about 12-6, 13-5...so we should be a little below that considering the difficult schedule. I'd say we looking at 48-50 wins.

Of course Jefferson's play could improve and we can overachieve, going 15-3....54-28 should get us close to the 4th seed.

[FeZZy]

playoofs

[Harry Callahan]

SAS threw away too many early season games and will pay for that with a low seed. They'll make the playoffs, but have a difficult time winning a series.

They have a shot of making noise if they end up in the 5-7 seed, have no more injury setbacks, and get Parker back for the first round.

If six weeks off gets TPs legs in the right state, who knows, they could make it tough on a higher seed.

[silverblk mystix]

as I said in another thread...I believe it would ---considering all that has happened this season and where we stand---be in the spurs best interests to play the Lakers first.

If we are---as everyone seems to think---going to be one and done--then it would be better to just play the lakers first...

sure, it could be a disaster....but then again....

the pros; less wear and tear on timmy and manu---so they would give the lakers their best punch...

less pressure on the whole team....no-one would be expecting a series win---so they could just go out and play to make it respectable---and probably end up playing looser and better...

no home court---which sounds bad---but it really just puts added pressure on the lakers...so stealing one or two in l.a. is not not that much of a reach...

it could be better than moving up to 6-5-4...and having to play a team that is a match-up nightmare...

[baseline bum]

as I said in another thread...I believe it would ---considering all that has happened this season and where we stand---be in the spurs best interests to play the Lakers first.

If we are---as everyone seems to think---going to be one and done--then it would be better to just play the lakers first...

sure, it could be a disaster....but then again....

the pros; less wear and tear on timmy and manu---so they would give the lakers their best punch...

less pressure on the whole team....no-one would be expecting a series win---so they could just go out and play to make it respectable---and probably end up playing looser and better...

no home court---which sounds bad---but it really just puts added pressure on the lakers...so stealing one or two in l.a. is not not that much of a reach...

it could be better than moving up to 6-5-4...and having to play a team that is a match-up nightmare...

There's a team in the West that's a bigger matchup nightmare than LA?

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If six weeks off gets TPs legs in the right state, who knows, they could make it tough on a higher seed.

I had completely forgotten about Parker's PF. If five weeks of rest is enough to get him back to being Tony Parker, this hand injury could really turn into a blessing in disguise.

[Jimcs50]

anyone that talks about tanking the season for the lottery is a ing idiot.

I am not saying that the team will tank the season, you idiot.

I am saying that as a fan, the best thing from my perspective long term is for them to miss playoffs, get lucky, draft John Wall, and have another run at championships instead of years of being average at best. From a historical standpoint, if DRob does not get hurt in 96, we never get TD, so sometimes, it is best to have injuries to key players(TP) and what looks bad, is actually a blessing.

[antgomez2009]

I dont care who the Spurs play, if you look at the standings, the seeds dont mean anything really for the West! ok, maybe home court advantage plays a big role, but it does in every sport! so that being said, The disparity this year in terms of wins/losses dont mean a whole lot for the Spurs because they had a lot of issues regarding new players learning the system, Lineup changes, disgruntled players, and injuries to deal with all year! Thats why the Spurs have loss IMO (about 7 games more then they should have not lost). But if all the elements are there, including a healthy Manu and Tim, as well as Tony when he recovers, I like the Spurs Chances, against any team! If most of yall are saying what do they have to lose, well, might as well try to dethrone the top dawg in the West right now! Im all for it!!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I am not saying that the team will tank the season, you idiot.

I am saying that as a fan, the best thing from my perspective long term is for them to miss playoffs, get lucky, draft John Wall, and have another run at championships instead of years of being average at best. From a historical standpoint, if DRob does not get hurt in 96, we never get TD, so sometimes, it is best to have injuries to key players(TP) and what looks bad, is actually a blessing.

The Spurs are not going to get to draft John Wall even if they miss the playoffs. 3 months too late.

[Jimcs50]

The Spurs are not going to get to draft John Wall even if they miss the playoffs. 3 months too late.

Well, if you remember, the Spurs beat the odds in 97 when Boston had 4 times the chance of the Spurs to get the TD lotto ball. SA won the TD sweepstakes by sucking out. If you have a ball in the hopper any given year, you can get lucky again. If they get 7 seed and get eliminated in first round by Dallas or Denver, what good does that do for their future. The Spurs do not need another playoff series or any more moral victories to add to their resume, they need young talent, and the only way that they can get that is to get in the lottery, and get lucky.

[Agloco]

SAS threw away too many early season games and will pay for that with a low seed.

This.

[Agloco]

I dont care who the Spurs play, if you look at the standings, the seeds dont mean anything really for the West! ok, maybe home court advantage plays a big role, but it does in every sport!

Soooooo.......... what you're really saying is that seeding does matter?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Well, if you remember, the Spurs beat the odds in 97 when Boston had 4 times the chance of the Spurs to get the TD lotto ball. SA won the TD sweepstakes by sucking out. If you have a ball in the hopper any given year, you can get lucky again. If they get 7 seed and get eliminated in first round by Dallas or Denver, what good does that do for their future. The Spurs do not need another playoff series or any more moral victories to add to their resume, they need young talent, and the only way that they can get that is to get in the lottery, and get lucky.

Boston had better odds, but the Spurs chances were significantly bigger than they would be if they start tanking right now.

If they do, the chances to get the first pick would be about 0.50%, the chance to get the second pick would be about 0.60% and the chance to get the 3rd pick would be about 0.72%.

Not very good odds, are they? Much much worse than in '97.

[Jimcs50]

Boston had better odds, but the Spurs chances were significantly bigger than they would be if they start tanking right now.

If they do, the chances to get the first pick would be about 0.50%, the chance to get the second pick would be about 0.60% and the chance to get the 3rd pick would be about 0.72%.

Not very good odds, are they? Much much worse than in '97.

odds to get it if they get 8 seed are 0.00%


Have you seen odds to win powerball lotto? 1 in 250 million....yet someone does win it......

[boutons_deux]

"yet someone does win it"

that's like saying "100% of the NBA Champions made the playoffs"

or "100% of lottery winners bought a ticket"

[Jimcs50]

"yet someone does win it"

that's like saying "100% of the NBA Champions made the playoffs"

or "100% of lottery winners bought a ticket"

I am saying that no matter the odds, if you have a ball in hopper, you can win it, yes????

[Jimcs50]

can they win it if they do not have ball in hopper?

Tell me, what good does a one and done do for the franchise? Wow, we get to see the Spurs play a whole 4 more games in the season, wow, I am stoked!!!

[boutons_deux]

The next MID-MARCH!!! 2 games will tell whether the Spurs have turned a corner, found their balls and hustle and confidence, and ability to get out of the first round.

We'll see if Pop has given up on his lottery ball rotations.

[JR3]

that . Bring on the Lakers.

I'm with this guy. I know we don't have what it takes this year to win it, but I like the idea of taking it to a contender and going out fighting. I think if there is a team that can upset someone this year, its us (maybe okc).

[JR3]

I am in the camp that says we should make the playoffs.. we have too much pride! If we don't win, we come pretty darn close to it everytime! We are not the type of team to tank and try to get a good draft pick.. we don't even freakin need a good draft position to draft well!

[RamReddy]

The Person who started this thread has no basketball IQ and is obviously not a true spurs fan...

We'll get our 50 wins and probably end up as the 4 5 or 6 seed

[lefty]

Playoofs?

You're talking about playoofs?

I just hope we can win a gaame

[NFGIII]

we have very bad schedule:
Tue 16 @ Miami W
Wed 17 @ Orlando L
Fri 19 vs Golden State W
Sun 21 @ Atlanta L
Mon 22 @ Oklahoma City W
Wed 24 vs LA Lakers L
Fri 26 vs Cleveland L
Sun 28 @ Boston W
Mon 29 @ New Jersey W
Wed 31 vs Houston W
Fri 02 vs Orlando W
Sun 04 @ LA Lakers L
Tue 06 @ Sacramento W
Wed 07 @ Phoenix L
Fri 09 vs Memphis W
Sat 10 @ Denver L
Mon 12 vs Minnesota W
Wed 14 @ Dallas L

we gonna win like 8 games so it will be enough only for the 8 seed.

I'm going to be optimistic and say that a 10-8 record would be the bottom side and and a 12-6 being tops. I could see the Spurs finally getting it together and start beating the better teams, possibly even beating the Lakers or Cavs at home and maybe taking out either the Suns or Nuggets on the road to get to 12 wins. But then agian.... anything can happen and this year they just haven't put it together like they have in past years. These next couple of games will be telling since they will be playing some better teams and the curtrent makeup - minus TP - is gong to have to gel in order for the Spurs to get that 5th or 6rh seed. If they play the way they have all season they would limp into the POs (7th/8th seed) only to be bounced in the 1st round.

The infusion of Malik, Jackson and the occasional Ian sighting has made watching the Spurs alot more fun lately. The blowout wins have helped Pop monitor both TD's and Manu's minutes, which is a good thing.

SAS threw away too many early season games and will pay for that with a low seed. They'll make the playoffs, but have a difficult time winning a series.

They have a shot of making noise if they end up in the 5-7 seed, have no more injury setbacks, and get Parker back for the first round.

If six weeks off gets TPs legs in the right state, who knows, they could make it tough on a higher seed.

Agreed. They had one of the easiest schedules at the beginning of the season but squandered several of those games integrating the new players and all. I still think they have a chance to get that 5th seed but several of the teams ahead of us will have to stumble a bit and help us out. If all goes well then TP could come back refreshed and the younger guys - ie...Malik, Jackson and Ian - would have valuable PT heading into the POs. And depending on what we see these last 18 games then maybe anything could happen.