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73 fouls and 91 free throws
That's ridiculous.
The only reason games are on this late is because of those weeds in California.
73 fouls and 91 free throws
That's ridiculous.
It might have been ugly and too many fouls were called, but that is to be expected in the game following a play when Carmello tried to hurt Manu intentionally. The refs just decided that these guys can't play without getting mad, so they tightened it up ...big time ! I ref high school ball, if I get two rival teams and they were involved in a fight the game before...you can bet the next game will be ugly and full of fouls. If it looks like a foul, call it, they will get the message..... knock out the rough dirty play, and we might let you play basketball.
dav4463 it wasnt consistent though
that free throw foul fest was only during like a 8 minute stretch of the 3rd quarter...then in the 4th they reverted back to just flat out random bad calls (for both teams)
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This game was awful to watch. No type of call consistancy and no flow whatsoever to the game.
The thing that pisses me off is the invisible barrier the NBA has over itself to shield any type of fan input towards any situation wheteher it be positive or in this case the horrible officiating both ways.
This aint happening next game, I can't wait to hear what Karl has got to say after this one
Mello = Untouchable WHat a freakin joke!!
Sean Elliot won't get fined for that, his ass will get a restraining order!
Seriously, Elliot was wanting to kill someone. I loved it!!!
my open letter to the NBA
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Man I wish I could have heard that. Sean bleeds silver and black.
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If this game set officiating back 40 years that would take it back to about the start of game 4 tonight. Dear lord that thing went on forever. I thought the first half was fairly reasonable considering how things were verging on out of hand towards the end of game three, but that third quarter has got to be the most god awful display of foul callery I've ever seen. It honestly reminded me of a middle school basketball game I once played where the thing had to be called in the third because the damn refs called so many fouls that our opponents couldn't put five on the court anymore.
Yeah, it was ugly and inconsistent, but I really think they were just trying to keep control in a very intense game. I thought there were plenty of bad calls, but it went both ways. The refs weren't in a "zone" themselves I guess. It happens, refs have bad games too and this bunch didn't mesh well together. But in the end....Spurs 36 fouls 45 Free throws... Nuggets 37 fouls, 46 free throws I believe.....so it wasn't one-sided....just inconsistent both ways and the Spurs played through it and did not lose their composure and deserved the win.
Good insight.
(nudge, whisper)
Thats 2 years buddy.
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Foul calleryclassic
Bavetta just can't make it up and down the court anymore and has to whistle random fouls to catch his breath. He might also be blind.
Hey I never thought of that, I think you are on to something there. Next thing we'll see is him bouncing around the hardwood with a suped up scooter.
one of those ing segways...lol
I think the refs must have had a pot going to see who could make the most calls with a jackpot for who got away with the most boned up call of the night. But they had to bone it up on both sides and it's not as one-sided as everyone is claiming here. Don't get me wrong, the Spurs seemed to be on the wrong side of 60% of the bad calls but the Nuggets got close to their share of crap. It was the battle of good and evil. The evil refs were making bad calls against the Spurs and the good refs had to try to bring balance to the game by calling their share of bogus calls against the Nuggets. Karl called down the whistle thunder and he got it.
WITH all the ticky tack fouls why werent there any real fouls called on the denver thugetts? There were at least 3 frustration/flagarant or technical fouls and none of them called t's? Why they still protecting them thugs......
I can buy the "Bavetta is blind" theory...with a wide-open look at Bowen having a hot dog and a Coke waiting for Carmelo Anthony to blast into him...and call it a blocking foul...that was utterly unbelievable.
That could have been a classic Playoff game, but I never want to watch it again.
Guys...we have got nothing to complain about compared to Houston...they were mugged, robbed and sodomized last night by the officials. That out of bounds steal by Finley and the call on Barry were beyond ridiculous...and clearly decided the outcome of the game...
I agree... I'm certainly not complaining about the bias of the officials. All told, I think we got as fair treatment as can be expected on the road in the Playoffs (Duncan's 6th foul aside). It was just such a beating to watch...
Game 1 of the WCF in 2003 was worse than this. But this was bad -- not unexpected, but bad.
I agree that Houston really got jobbed also. Duncan's fifth foul was BS, but if that wrist tap was a foul, how could the arm bar lock on Ginobili on the very next play not be a foul??!! That was insane.
That's the point. David Stern thinks he's being clever by keeping games close, but in the end he's going to lose the large audience he craves because many really are starting to question the legitimacy of the NBA.
Has anyone mentioned the fact that Tim probably didn't throw a fit on the total BS calls against him because he got used to it last summer with the FIBA refs?
I think I remember him stating that he would never complain about NBA officiating again. It looks like he's keeping his word.
He knows what all winners know - you gotta keep playing to win the game and adjust as well you can to how it is being called. You can't let bad officiating take your team out of the game. The sole person who is allowed to get a technical arguing calls in my book is Pop, it's his job.
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