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Which still makes him a heck of a player.He is Glenn Robinson, volume 2.
Note: He has a way to go before he gains something similar to a prime Glenn Robinsons mid range game.
Melo is better in other aspects of the game though
very classy, troy.
Which still makes him a heck of a player.He is Glenn Robinson, volume 2.
Note: He has a way to go before he gains something similar to a prime Glenn Robinsons mid range game.
Melo is better in other aspects of the game though
Do we see the princess blushing??
Troy, you're the man.
I'll just have to have you guys trust me on this one. Melo can do things Glenn Robinson can only dream of doing. He's about 20x more athletic than a young Glenn Robinson ever was. And I'm tired of hearing that he isn't hustling because he is. Just like I screamed until I was blue in the face that you didn't see our best after game 1, I'll scream that Carmelo is better than you think he is.
Quick, name me one 20 year old player that did what Melo did last night in the playoffs. You are going to have to go back pretty deep. Even with the influx of "young" talent in this leage, it doesn't happen often. You guys have one in TP, and he's a guy I've defended on the Nuggets board over and over for the same reasons. "he can't show up in the clutch" "He has horrible playoff games" "He wouldn't be anything without Duncan" "blah, blah, blah" HE'S TWENTY TWO YEARS OLD. HOW ABOUT GIVING HIM SOME TIME??? I find it comical that he's bashed.
Well, Melo is twenty. He's already very, very good. And he's only going to get better. His jumper will get more consistent. He'll get a stronger upper body and start dunking some of the "lay ins" as he goes forward. He's already becoming a pretty decent defender and that too will only get better. He had a sensational night last night. This is with a teams season on the line against the best defensive team in the league (or close to it). He put up 28-7-5.
Also, something I'm sure Solid D will relate to since he watches games with the coaches eye. . . look at how many shots the Nuggets get simply because Carmelo Anthony is on the floor. I'd say we get 10 open looks a game directly related to how much attention teams put on a 20 year old, 6'8" player on the blocks.
What happens when that 20 year old, like most 20 years olds, improves his game and becomes more consistent? He's already drawing the other teams best defender on a nightly basis. He's already creating shots for other people by just being out there. He's already hitting clutch jumpers and drives with the game on the line. Am I supposed to believe this is as good as he'll be? Please. . .
Congrats to the Denver fans in here...
You guys had a great run at the end of the season and I know you had high expectations for the playoffs...as a Denver fan not getting to experience your team winning on home court after the high of beating us on ours had to be tough...Kiki has finally got that franchise rebuilt and I expect to see you guys in the post-season for years to come...Thats a dangerous team with a lot of talent and mismatches and as a Spurs fan I DO hope you guys play someone else in the first two rounds next year...we may be feeling good now but y'all scared the out of us in that first game...
I know this series isn't over but in your players hearts I think they know that the chances of taking the next three straight are pretty slim...I know from painful experience as a long time Spurs fan what it's like to go into the playoffs with a great record and high expectations and get taken down hard...I personally think the Spurs nutting up in overtime tonight had a lot to do with recent collective memories of the .04 loss last year....they just refused to lose this time no matter what obstacles (including having Timmy tossed on a no foul) they had to overcome...
anyway...just wanted to say that for the most part you guys have been a class act and you are welcome to hang with us any time...off-season is a lot less partisan and we generally talk "all NBA" and not just Spurs ball...so hang on with us for the rest of the playoff ride...laugh at the cliff jumpers when we drop a game...smirk at the bandwagon fans that jump on with the wins and declare the Spurs to be "the best team in the universe because they are nice guys", etc.
anyway...just wanted to say welcome to the show and your guys got nuthin to be ashamed of...they played with a lot of heart and talent and never quit...
^^ I agree with all of that, as long as his head is on straight he can become a force in the league. Unfortunately for Denver I don't see him leading a championship run in the traditional sense however. He would need a very good supporting cast of players.
I think next year they have a decent chance at winning their division. Denver needs an upgrade at SG pretty badly. If Ray Ray or Michael Redd decide to play in Denver (and I'm completely ignorant on the Nugs salary cap situation), a lineup of Carmelo, K-Mart, Camby, Andre Miller and Ray/Redd could be lethal.
They made it this far with DerMarr Johnson, Greg Buckner, and Wes Person. Could you pick any of these three guys out of a police lineup?
Carmelo is nothing but yet another talented street punk, a cheap-shotting, whiny, pissy, sissy, illiterate balla. The NBA is rotten with them (Melo, meet Vince, meet Antoine, meet PaulP, meet Rafer, etc, etc), dragging down the characer of the whole league.
Like the Manu-booing, mountain-trash, violence-inciting, chicken Denver fans, Manu doesn't have the character and toughness it takes to compete (which is different from perform) at the Championship level. He got so many calls last night, including, pushing off Manu's back, AGAIN!!, to hit a jump shot. Melo's great at going after somebody from behind, what a gutless wimp. Don't expect him to go face-to-face, he's too chicke .
KMart runs his stupid faux-macho yapper, and, as sure as playoffs follow the regular season, fails to show up in the playoffs, AGAIN! Another ball-less twit balla.
Buckner's a criminal thug.
I said it and I am still not buying it. Respect is one thing but blatant disregard for the rules? Haven't seen that since MJ and no, Melo is not the next MJ.I read someone in another thread say "when did Carmelo become a superstar?" The answer is that all Melo needs to become a superstar is the respect of the refs.
Thanks Troy.
If your team can get a true PG like Kidd, they will be right there.
Huh? Dude, our team won. On the road. Again. Act a little gracious.
Nothing new about Troy...
He's a real fan.
Nuggets are lucky.
"Act a little gracious."
that. Tell that to the Denver coach, players, and fans.
They set the poisoned tone and atmosphere for this series.
They don't deserve ANY graciousness.
Let's bury these losers Wed night and rid ourselves of this filth, just more Spurs roadkill.
I have to go all the way back to three years ago, when a 19 year old Tony Parker absolutely owned one Gary Payton in the first round.
exactly.
Its the playoffs, being gracious.
They're probably the best seven seed since that Warriors team with Run TMC knocked off the Spurs in '91. And you're prolonging this "poisoned tone and atmosphere" by emulating the coach, players, and fans that disgust you.
Show a little class, man.
How about winning with some dignity? This is the first round, remember? SA is supposed to be dominating this series. Save the venom for the Pistons or the Suns.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. Glenn Robinson has always been one of my very favourite players and my mates nicknamed me after him because of the way I used to play basketball. Carmelo's athleticism is overated especially since he gained weight entering the NBA. In the game vs LeBron in High School that heaps of people have seen, he was far more athletic, due to him being a lot more skinnier. Glenn Robinson circa 1994 and Carmelo Anthony of 2005 are close together athletically, but then Dog got lazy.I'll just have to have you guys trust me on this one. Melo can do things Glenn Robinson can only dream of doing. He's about 20x more athletic than a young Glenn Robinson ever was. And I'm tired of hearing that he isn't hustling because he is.
Both players were average defensively in there first 2 season, both pretty good rebounders, Carmelo getting the edge there because he works fantastic of his own misses and on the offensive rebounds. Carmelo is a far superior passer and Glenn was a far superior shooter. Both were pretty good thinkers basketball wise and understood positioning etc and showed flashes of being unstoppable.The comparison is very accurate, but Big Dog got very lazy and turned into just a jump shooter. Carmelo does have a chance to become very good, but I can't see him being a Superstar like your Duncan, KG, Shaq, LeBron's etc.
So, during two months of the year you turn yourself into an impolite moron?
Last edited by Cara De Dedão; 05-03-2005 at 10:00 AM.
naaa....thats just TPark...
D'oh!
"turn yourself into a impolite moron"
Thuggets fans, take your holier-than-thou sancitmony and spew it your own coach, players, fans. They are all in much more in need of your minstrations than this forum.
The Nuggets side started this , and the Spurs side is going to finish it.
Now go crawl back under a buffalo patty.
These guys have been polite and respectful of us and the Spurs. This is FSP, not SpursReport...we welcome opinions from other teams fans.
We are up 3-1...you guys need to lose the at ude and quit embarrasing this forum.
I hope you don't plan on being such an embarassment to all of us all the way through the Finals.
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