What a sad quote from Mahinmi...

[jermaine]

His numbers look good....I'm sure somebody has taken notice...you'd think..

I've noticed Ian. I want him 2 no he makes my rotation on 2k10 with the bench an in the 4th qtr as my pf under da 2min mark. I feel u Ian! I feel u!

[Biernutz]

“I always root for a blowout,” said Mahinmi, the Spurs' backup backup center. “You get to that third quarter, you're up 20 or 30 — you start to think there's a chance you might get in.”

The Spurs have always had bench players who never play unless there is a 30 point blow out . I can't remember who was the bench player who had the least minutes per season. I would guess it was the China's movie stud bomber Mengker Bateer , Fat ass Jackie Butler or Jack Haley who was Dennis Rodmans kiss ass. What bar does Jackie bouncer at now?

[underdawg]

not a sad quote - he wants to play and even though he looks timid and clumsy at times he always has the effort. The sad thing is that Malik and Ian probably will get a lot of playing time in the playoffs because we've been blown out. I still have hope that Pop figures a way out to work them into the rotation for different situations. You're fooling yourselves if you think we don't need either one of these guys.

[easy7]

If that is your best, you best walk through...

[exstatic]

If winning was based on just talent, the Suns and Mavs.... even the Jail Blazers would have some by now.

That.

gs was babbling on about Pop having the most talented rosters, but that's frankly BS. The Spurs have always done more with less than the other top 5 teams at any given time. I think PHO had the most talent for the three seasons starting in 2004-2005 and ending 2006-2007, yet we won les in 2 of those 3 years.

When this country ends, it'll be with a whimper of the kind of culture of the victim you see on display here. Oh yeah, of course Pop is hurting the team by holding back a player who's a budding All Star. ing idiots. Ian doesn't play in "normal time" because he sucks. They run plays for him and he's successful in his long stretches because they come against ing NEW JERSEY and GOLDEN STATE.

[Dr. Gonzo]

That.

gs was babbling on about Pop having the most talented rosters, but that's frankly BS. The Spurs have always done more with less than the other top 5 teams at any given time. I think PHO had the most talent for the three seasons starting in 2004-2005 and ending 2006-2007, yet we won les in 2 of those 3 years.

When this country ends, it'll be with a whimper of the kind of culture of the victim you see on display here. Oh yeah, of course Pop is hurting the team by holding back a player who's a budding All Star. ing idiots. Ian doesn't play in "normal time" because he sucks. They run plays for him and he's successful in his long stretches because they come against ing NEW JERSEY and GOLDEN STATE.

amen

[ShoogarBear]

People are mad that Ian wants to play? GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Even worse, he wants the Spurs to be up by 20!

[UnWantedTheory]

Wow we have stooped so low this season as to take meaningless and simple statements out of context. We are just bored. There is nothing wrong with what the man said. Move on.

[mingus]

That.

gs was babbling on about Pop having the most talented rosters, but that's frankly BS. The Spurs have always done more with less than the other top 5 teams at any given time. I think PHO had the most talent for the three seasons starting in 2004-2005 and ending 2006-2007, yet we won les in 2 of those 3 years.

When this country ends, it'll be with a whimper of the kind of culture of the victim you see on display here. Oh yeah, of course Pop is hurting the team by holding back a player who's a budding All Star. ing idiots. Ian doesn't play in "normal time" because he sucks. They run plays for him and he's successful in his long stretches because they come against ing NEW JERSEY and GOLDEN STATE.

Budding all-star? seriously hard to take your post as a rebuttal when you're changing the arguments that you're attempting to argue against. i guess that's what people do when they dont' really have argument and just want to be contrary for the sake of it. contrary to their own fabricated opposing argument...

almost everybody is saying that they want to see him play. that's what i've been reading. i don't think i've read anybody definitively say that he's going to be awesome or make the Spurs significantly better or anything. they just want to see him play, based off of what they've seen him do in the little time he gets. as far as i'm concerned, you'd be bull ting yourself if you don't think the same. to not have any inclination to want to see him against better comp. is a flat out lie. you're bull ting yourself if you say you don't want to see Ian get more pt, esp. against better compe ion. it's as simple as that.

[poop]

Ian is six - foot -eleven gigantic athletic negro with long ass arms and big hands and appears as if he were genetically engineered in a lab to play basketball, is only just now turned 23 years of age, has been payed already millions of dollars to play a silly ball game.life is good

[pjjrfan]

Actually, the point wasn't whether I think Ian would have broken the rotation...the point is that the quote indicates that Ian has given up on competing for a spot in the regular rotation...and that's sad to see in a professional athlete--to have your compe ive instinct squashed for whatever reason...i think compe iveness is one of the defining characteristics of a professional athlete...no matter what, mentally you have to believe that you can compete with anyone...

But perhaps that's why Pop doesn't give Ian any real court time...perhaps Pop judges Mahinmi to be mentally weak and so doesn't really respect him...I think Pop is your classic old school military guy...if he doesn't respect you, he won't give you time of the day...and Mahinmi's quote seems to indicate that he's mentally broken to a certain extent...

I don't think he has given up, I think he has seen the writing on the wall and knows unless the team is down by 30 or up by 30 he isn't going to see any playing time. Or a couple of bigs get injured. I mean he doesn't run the team and judging by how he has been used, I don't see any reason for him to be optimistic about getting a regular role off the bench, so the best he can hope for is for blowouts, so he can, IMO, showcase his talents so that he can get picked up for next season.

[Capt Bringdown]

... , even Doc Rivers has a le...

Phil Jackson's career doesn't have many low points, but getting beat by a grasping chancer like Rivers has to sting.

Remember in last year's PO against the Mavs when one of their scub bigs (I forgot exactly who), had some nice moments against us? Pop's coaching philosophy precludes that kind of contribution happening for us.

Pop's not a nuance kind of guy, it's all or nothing with him. He deems Ian not ready, for him it's a black or white, binary decision. Seems to me there's other possibilities.

[Fabbs]

Budding all-star? seriously hard to take your post as a rebuttal when you're changing the arguments that you're attempting to argue against. i guess that's what people do when they dont' really have argument and just want to be contrary for the sake of it. contrary to their own fabricated opposing argument...

almost everybody is saying that they want to see him play. that's what i've been reading. i don't think i've read anybody definitively say that he's going to be awesome or make the Spurs significantly better or anything. they just want to see him play, based off of what they've seen him do in the little time he gets. as far as i'm concerned, you'd be bull ting yourself if you don't think the same. to not have any inclination to want to see him against better comp. is a flat out lie. you're bull ting yourself if you say you don't want to see Ian get more pt, esp. against better compe ion. it's as simple as that.

Nicely done.
As a side point to exstatics attempt to change the subject,
Timmy Dunkar MVP
Man From Nazr-Rasho in TallBall
Manu GNob healthy
Parker
Bruce Bowen
Brent Barrdog
Bob Horry
Are not as good as??

Stoudamire
Marion
Joe Johnson
Q Richer
Nash
Barbosa


you sir, need to go find a Phx Suns board to hang out on.

[Waps1980]

We are not going to win the big prize this year anyway so why not give him minutes give TD some bloody help ffs. Last thing you want is to burn TD out. Let him coast the season out and try plan some big moves for next year.

+ nobody gets better without real playing time, I've heard all the at practice this and that but fact you need real playing time to improve. He holds all the cards to be what we need but can Pop turn him into that player.

[spursbird]

I don't care. Neither would play in the playoffs.

[mathbzh]

5 last games:
39 minutes
6 fouls, 0 Ast (this is the bad part)

33 points (62%)
11 rebounds
3 blocks
2TO


I know this was garbage time... but come on... Ian can't do anything more to prove he deserves playing time. No wonder why he sounds depressed...

[boutons_deux]

The Spurs have badly screwed up Ian's career.

If they aren't going to play him (and they aren't), then waive him and let him have a chance to develop and play elsewhere, rather than just telling him that they won't pick up his option and parking him on the bench. They're insulting him by retaining him as practice meat.

[jjktkk]

dunno, have the best roster and RealMVP for 7 of those 9 years?

Well thats how it usually works. Great coaches, great players. Phil Jackson/Michael Jordan. Pat Riley/Majic Johnson, etc.... Hey Fabbs, I'm kinda curious. Whats the difference between a real MVP and a fake MVP?

[Fabbs]

Well thats how it usually works. Great coaches, great players. Phil Jackson/Michael Jordan. Pat Riley/Majic Johnson, etc.... Hey Fabbs, I'm kinda curious. Whats the difference between a real MVP and a fake MVP?

Real MVP: truly the best player in the NBA. Makes his teamates better.

Fake MVP, aka Media Valuable Player: Hyped up by media ad nauseum. Might have very good individual talent, but in no way shape or form is truly best player in NBA.

Kome Bryant 2008 had a good year of course, but this puss being gifted Gasol and the endless joke ref calls he and the Marketing Lakers get colluded. No way did he have a better year then LeBron at 30/7.9/7.2 with defense. LeBron trying to get by with aging Z and company.

Dirk 2007 over Timmy Dunkar another joke.

Nash had excellent years but in no way, shape or form did he exceed Timmy Dunks in 2004 and 2005. If the Spurs do not have a moron for a coach they may well have threepeated. Certainly would have done a repeat.

[jjktkk]

Real MVP: truly the best player in the NBA. Makes his teamates better.

Fake MVP, aka Media Valuable Player: Hyped up by media ad nauseum. Might have very good individual talent, but in no way shape or form is truly best player in NBA.

Kome Bryant 2008 had a good year of course, but this puss being gifted Gasol and the endless joke ref calls he and the Marketing Lakers get colluded. No way did he have a better year then LeBron at 30/7.9/7.2 with defense. LeBron trying to get by with aging Z and company.

Dirk 2007 over Timmy Dunkar another joke.

Nash had excellent years but in no way, shape or form did he exceed Timmy Dunks in 2004 and 2005. If the Spurs do not have a moron for a coach they may well have threepeated. Certainly would have done a repeat.

LOL, have to rib yea alittle on the real/fake MVP question. And on the 3peat, it hasn't been done I believe since the Lakers in the 80's. And if you think Pop's a moron, I hope coach Moron isn't leaving anytime soon.

[Chomag]

Another mistake by Pops........besides not getting Splitter the last two season, who the spurs were counting on.......we are gonna lose Ian at the end of the year and will regret it.

He has all the upside you look for in a big, Pops has just be so spoild by having Robinson and Duncan, he has no idea how to develop a big! You can see when Ian gets 10-13 mins he puts up solid numbers. I know he makes some foolish mistakes, but so does every young player. He just needs game time to develop.

Instead we have worn out Duncan prior to the playoffs, invested in Dice who in no way fits our system or needs and through a of alot of money at a good SF who needs to play up tempo to be at his best.

Pops for all the things he has done well has all but assured TD has won his last ring by failing to get Splitter and give Ian time. I like blair but he doesnt have the upside of Ian yet we put him out there even starting him for 20 games while Ian sits.

Does anyone else remeber TD as a rookie turning the ball over 5-7 times a game? Commiting dumb fouls......making a spectacular play one min and then giving a head scratcher??? Ian will develop into a double double guy........just not for us.

Exactly, its pretty lame that people are shatting on him every time the guy misses a shot, turns the ball over, or commits a foul. Like he is the first NBA player to ever do so.

When Manu was playing so poorly early in the season Poeple would say "He is just needs to work himself into his rhythm" So Manu gets time to do so but someone like Ian cant.

The Kid makes mistakes yes, its called developing. He has been producing more then he has been making those mistakes in the little time given to him. Show me 1 young player and even old that doesnt make the same mistakes.

[CarnacTheMagnificent]

Another mistake by Pops........besides not getting Splitter the last two season, who the spurs were counting on.......we are gonna lose Ian at the end of the year and will regret it.

He has all the upside you look for in a big, Pops has just be so spoild by having Robinson and Duncan, he has no idea how to develop a big!

Yeah, that Duncan character never developed.

Instead we have worn out Duncan prior to the playoffs...

yeah, he's worn out from playing the least minutes in his career...

[quote]invested in Dice who in no way fits our system or needs and through a of alot of money at a good SF who needs to play up tempo to be at his best. [\quote]

Yeah, Dice can rebound, pass and play outside to let Tim work in the post. We can't have that anymore! And the last thing we need is a athletic swingman for this halfcourt team. We should have kept Finley.

[quote]Pops for all the things he has done well has all but assured TD has won his last ring by failing to get Splitter and give Ian time. I like blair but he doesnt have the upside of Ian yet we put him out there even starting him for 20 games while Ian sits.[\quote]
We can't just sign whoever we want. There's a thing called a salary cap. This isnt fantasy basketball.
Yeah, and the consensus around the league is that Ian has more upside than Blair. Blair has no rebounding skill and absolutely no feel for the game.
everyone agrees blair is a scrub.

Does anyone else remeber TD as a rookie turning the ball over 5-7 times a game? Commiting dumb fouls......making a spectacular play one min and then giving a head scratcher??? Ian will develop into a double double guy........just not for us.

Yeah, there are many similarities between a young duncan and a young ian. Tim Duncan certainly didn't come out of the draft as the most polished bigman since Hakeem.

Please Texas 2 step, teach us more!

[TheSullyMonster]

And on the 3peat, it hasn't been done I believe since the Lakers in the 80's.

Michael Jordan, Shaq and Phil Jackson say hi. In fact, Jordan says hi twice.

A threepeat has happened -wait for it- three times since the 80s.

00-02, Lakers.
96-98, Bulls.
91-93, Bulls.

Damn dude, where the have you been?

Oh, and uh. The Lakers didn't 3-peat in the 80s.

[DPG21920]

That.

gs was babbling on about Pop having the most talented rosters, but that's frankly BS. The Spurs have always done more with less than the other top 5 teams at any given time. I think PHO had the most talent for the three seasons starting in 2004-2005 and ending 2006-2007, yet we won les in 2 of those 3 years.

When this country ends, it'll be with a whimper of the kind of culture of the victim you see on display here. Oh yeah, of course Pop is hurting the team by holding back a player who's a budding All Star. ing idiots. Ian doesn't play in "normal time" because he sucks. They run plays for him and he's successful in his long stretches because they come against ing NEW JERSEY and GOLDEN STATE.

Same thing you said about Malik with your dumb arguments about putting him in against Nash with 3 seconds left. Now you look foolish because of your agenda.

[Cane]

Whats sad is that Ian couldn't sell himself a rotation spot over a rookie despite being under the Spurs umbrella for years.

But I want him to play since it'd mean the Spurs are blowing out their opponents.