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    It seem Real Madrid will make Manu offer of 3 years and €15 million euros net. Since in Spurs he lose in his salary 35% to federal US tax, 8% to NBA player union fee, 4% to agent fee and since in Europe contracts salary amount is figure after all expense........

    this mean Real Madrid will offer Manu this summer (with current time exchange rate) what is same as 3 year $38.3 million NBA contract with Spurs. I do not believe Manu will get $12.8 million per season from any NBA teams.
    15 million net euros is 20.25 million, which would be ~7 million/season

    Your figures are misleading, unless you are trying to say since he isnt paying taxes or fees the same true earning power would be 12.8 million per season in the US, which is not what your le says.

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    15 million net euros is 20.25 million, which would be ~7 million/season

    Your figures are misleading, unless you are trying to say since he isnt paying taxes or fees the same true earning power would be 12.8 million per season in the US, which is not what your le says.
    Please show me one NBA salary that is list in net income.
    Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 03-22-2010 at 06:42 AM.

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    manu has nothing to prove in euroleague, no where he signs there. he will be in new york next season.

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    Manu leaving the NBA:

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    Sorry if I missed this, but how much is he costing the Spurs? If a lot, I say they let him walk and look to sign another good player. A key for the Spurs rebuilding is unloading Ginobili. I know he's tremendously popular, but keeping him is similar to the suns keeping nash right now where rebuilding can't be completed while he's still there. (for the record I'm a Nash homer)

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    Manu leaving the NBA:
    So you believe he can get that money from NBA? No way will he. He will 33 years old, has injuries all the time and he demands to play for Argentina once every 2 summers. He will get 1/3 of that money in NBA.

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    So you believe he can get that money from NBA? No way will he. He will 33 years old, has injuries all the time and he demands to play for Argentina once every 2 summers. He will get 1/3 of that money in NBA.
    he will be in new york next season if he wants money, he will get millions in endorsements there while playing in world's best arena.

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    lol to basically every post in this thread.
    you said that too early, mate.

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    Sorry if I missed this, but how much is he costing the Spurs? If a lot, I say they let him walk and look to sign another good player. A key for the Spurs rebuilding is unloading Ginobili. I know he's tremendously popular, but keeping him is similar to the suns keeping nash right now where rebuilding can't be completed while he's still there. (for the record I'm a Nash homer)
    Check the sig, 2 years 16-20 mil is more then worth it, Ginobili is the best player on the team since the All-Star break, there is no one even close to his value we could get out there

    So you believe he can get that money from NBA? No way will he. He will 33 years old, has injuries all the time and he demands to play for Argentina once every 2 summers. He will get 1/3 of that money in NBA.
    Please show me one NBA salary that is list in net income.
    ing idiot thinking cash is the most important thing to a guy like Manu
    Last edited by ffadicted; 03-22-2010 at 07:42 AM.

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    12.8 million to play in the D-League? He would be a fool to pass up on this lol

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    I bet it still looks like that during games too

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    yeah but you guys have In n Out, only the best ever fastfood burger created by God, i have yet to try one, but it's my quest.
    i dont know about that ...but Innout is great. i hope you get to try one everything i fresh even the bread ...

    Gosh, i miss California sometimes. Also try Roscoe's chicken N Waffles and get some thai food when you hit Cali ...good stuff!

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    I bet it still looks like that during games too
    It looks roughly about the same size as the UTSA Roadrunners gym.

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    Major difference between NBA and European teams also is, that in NBA teams fulfil their contract obligations, where in Europe check bounces very often - check big contracts from summer 2008

    There is some financial powehouses (Real, Barcelona, Panathinaikos, Olympiakos, CSKA..??), rest are more or less just empty promises.
    There are a lot more European clubs than those with solid financial situations - at least in the sense that they'll pay the salaries to their players in due time. Plus, players anywhere near this caliber generally sign FIBA contracts which means clubs have a very small margin to not pay salaries in due time.



    This is so stupid and is nonsense. Any European club that is pay million dollar contracts the contracts are all guaranteed. And you think those are only rich clubs in Europe?

    So Fener, Efes, Khimki are poor clubs? You are say that even clubs like Malaga, Baskonia, Macabbi, Siena do not pay their players? Please keep the ridiculous nonsense out of this thread.

    This is supposed to be a serious thread and there is no place for the stupid lies and crap here.
    Khimki didn't have liquidity to pay salaries last season and is still making payments to some players that have already left the club. Heck, Delfino even went on a strike because he wasn't being paid in time. Even CSKA went through delayed salaries last year.

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    Unlike most of the nonsensical stuff he's been writing, there's some basis for this KBP's post. I was about to start a thread last night but decided not to because it's just a rumour. It's been going on for some time but yesterday - or Saturday - a Spanish journalist who's generally very well informed spilled the beans on his twitter.

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    Unlike most of the nonsensical stuff he's been writing, there's some basis for this KBP's post. I was about to start a thread last night but decided not to because it's just a rumour. It's been going on for some time but yesterday - or Saturday - a Spanish journalist who's generally very well informed spilled the beans on his twitter.
    Yes, they probably are interested but the salary numbers hes saying are totally made up and false.. hes just trying to be a troll like usual and does a pretty good job at it....

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    Yes, they probably are interested but the salary numbers hes saying are totally made up and false.. hes just trying to be a troll like usual and does a pretty good job at it....
    Yes, the salaries he just made up.

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    There are a lot more European clubs than those with solid financial situations - at least in the sense that they'll pay the salaries to their players in due time. Plus, players anywhere near this caliber generally sign FIBA contracts which means clubs have a very small margin to not pay salaries in due time.



    Khimki didn't have liquidity to pay salaries last season and is still making payments to some players that have already left the club. Heck, Delfino even went on a strike because he wasn't being paid in time. Even CSKA went through delayed salaries last year.
    That is not true. Khimki has no financial issues and has plenty of money. They are a very rich club with a 30 million euros budget. You have Khimki confuse with Dynamo Moscow that had financial problems and had to cut the budget from 30 million euros to 10.

    Khimki has no financial issues and is very rich and Delfino admit to press that it was all media lies and nonsense that he did not get paid. In fact as he said he got all his money. Khimki is a very rich club.

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    Yes, they probably are interested but the salary numbers hes saying are totally made up and false.. hes just trying to be a troll like usual and does a pretty good job at it....
    http://www.hoopsnotes.com/2010/03/re...n-to-ginobili/

    According to several radio reports in Spain from the Spanish Euroleague club Real Madrid, they will offer Manu Ginobili a contract that amounts to an NBA salary of about $13 million per year this summer.

    Real Madrid also has a connection with Manu, as their current head coach was Manu’s former coach when he played in Italy.

    Other NBA related players that are said to be targets of Real Madrid this summer are Spurs first round draft pick Tiago Splitter, Darko Milicic, Sergio Rodriguez, Andres Nocioni, and Rudy Fernandez. The club will offer buyouts to the NBA teams of Nocioni and Fernandez.

    Ginobili is the club’s main target though, and they will apparently go after him hard, as they believe they can get him due to his very good relationship with their head coach Messina.


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    I did not make up anything. Why don't you stop make false accusations.

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    So what's the story here....Euro teams offering big money for aging NBA players.
    WGAF really. The real league is the NBA.

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    So what's the story here....Euro teams offering big money for aging NBA players.
    WGAF really. The real league is the NBA.
    I'm expecting them to make an offer to Kobe pretty soon.

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    I did not make up anything. Why don't you stop make false accusations.
    Yes you did. Is Dimitri your new pen name?

    That is not true. Khimki has no financial issues and has plenty of money. They are a very rich club with a 30 million euros budget. You have Khimki confuse with Dynamo Moscow that had financial problems and had to cut the budget from 30 million euros to 10.

    Khimki has no financial issues and is very rich and Delfino admit to press that it was all media lies and nonsense that he did not get paid. In fact as he said he got all his money. Khimki is a very rich club.
    I generally don't confuse ball clubs. Khimki, like some other clubs in Europe (including some from the Greek league, as we both know), delayed the payment of salaries at one point last season. And their budget declined this season, like CSKA budget declined, like the budget of pretty much every Russian club declined from last season to this one - just not as much as Dynamo's budget. Of course Delfino got all his money, nobody said Khimki is still owing him money.

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    Yes you did. Is Dimitri your new pen name?



    I generally don't confuse ball clubs. Khimki, like some other clubs in Europe (including some from the Greek league, as we both know), delayed the payment of salaries at one point last season. And their budget declined this season, like CSKA budget declined, like the budget of pretty much every Russian club declined from last season to this one - just not as much as Dynamo's budget. Of course Delfino got all his money, nobody said Khimki is still owing him money.
    CSKA budget is still very high at 30 million euros. Even though their main investor left them and bought the Nets and even though their main sponsor dropped they still have plenty of money. PAO budget this season was 25 million euros. Only teams in Europe right now with higher budget than CSKA is Olympiacos and Real.

    And CSKA does not have that much more money than Khimki. Khimki did renovations and remodel to their arena, built new practice court, new locker rooms, new press and media rooms, and almost double the size of the arena. And then in summer they are doing another expansion in their arena. This is all paid by them. So I do not see how they have any financial problems.

    Also there are the very rich Europen clubs that do not have big budgets now but could afford it. Two that come to mind are Milano and Panellinios. Super rich clubs that could spend huge money but they are being tight these days. But you never know what could happen. There are clubs like this that no one would even think to sign an very big player but could easily afford it if they want to.
    Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 03-22-2010 at 05:31 PM.

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    Is funny how CSKA budget "declined". Sure they cut their budget...

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