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@Yoni: Was Obama propagandizing?
The claim that he was would superficially resemble my facetious allegation upstream that you and SnC are big propagandists for Alinsky in this forum.
i get it! you're saying that obama uses a blackboard and palin uses her hand, right?Of course, the mainstream media was too tied up in Wasilla to worry
@Yoni: Was Obama propagandizing?
The claim that he was would superficially resemble my facetious allegation upstream that you and SnC are big propagandists for Alinsky in this forum.
Last edited by Winehole23; 03-26-2010 at 11:06 AM.
I really have no other point to make here but to ask a question about this...
I've seen you say this several times...
Umm... and this isn't something philosophical...
What do you have against eating pussy?
It seems more like a pretentious mannerism to me. A literal gloss of Yoni's handle, stuck on repeat.
So the purpose of this thread is to state that Obama, as a teacher, taught something.
I can't believe Glenn Beck missed this...
Apparently the mere mention of Saul Alinsky is supposed to make your eyes roll back.
Kulturkampf, rewarmed. Damn hippies.
Why does that happen sometimes?
Ok, I thought that was at least a bit funny. I stopped at that point.
It's called lightening up. You should try it sometime.
I think it is wrong for the professor to teach alinsky's rules for radicals. Unless it is a class with that kind of subject(political strategies). This kind of thing reminds me of when my Finite Math and Acct professors would start the day off with Bush/Repub updates.
that is my opinion though and think we should treat the college kids like adults and hold them responsible. Liberal radicalizing college kids seems to be a fact of life. My problem with the Alinsky-Obama connection is the MSM's kid glove treatment of it. However that seems to be a fact of life too so you are right WH, nothing to see here. Wake me when a pro-lifer throws a rock at an abortion clinic.
Damn, this is a stupid thread.Tell us all the importance of this connection you perceive.My problem with the Alinsky-Obama connection is the MSM's kid glove treatment of it.
True, but the reverse can happen too, and at any rate the jejune excesses of collegiate experimentation are soon papered over with solid respectability and quasi-Republican viewpoints.
Let this thread be your horsewhip.
Spread the word, brother. Don't hoard the knowledge.
Last edited by Winehole23; 03-26-2010 at 07:43 AM. Reason: and quasi-Republican viewpoints
Monty Python default, detected.
There are a load of lefty colleges professors that teach lefty . The lack of righty college professors teaching righty is not the fault of the lefties, but the righties. All that means to me is that Obama was a typical college professor, and no he's a lefty(or at least a fake one).
Obama was a lefty teacher and he taught lefty . If he'd been a righty teacher he'd have taught righty . The ratio of lefties teaching lefty to righties teaching righty in college is about 100-1 in this country, and it's not because lefties won't let righties teach righty , it's that there aren't as many righties that want to teach righty .
I think a lot lefites that teach lefty are flat out bored talking with the other lefties that teach lefty and would actually welcome righties teaching righty if only to give them someone to argue with.
Plain and simple, the lefties care about this approach more than the righties do.
ing to the lefties that other lefties aren't teaching enough righty is never going to get you anywhere. And if they lefties wanted to teach righty they'd be righties, not lefties.
It's like expecting the Lakers to score some points for the Spurs.
There is an old saying...if you want something done right, do it yourself.
If righties don't like the lefties dominating the college education system then they need to start becoming college educators themselves.
And make no mistake about it, lefties do dominate the college educational system and they overwhelmingly let their politics influence their teachings to varying degrees whether they intend to or not. And the righties would probably be no different.
I don't like the onesidedness of it, but ing to the lefties about lefties teaching lefty and expecting the lefty media to about it is unrealistic, and lazy.
It's just a different version of wanting the government to wipe your ass for you.
He who spends the most time with the kids get to influence them the most. If you care that much, then do something about it.
This sort of ing is just like all absentee parents in this country at the secondary school level. Where people take a pass on mentoring their children themselves and pass the responsibility on to the teachers and school systems and then when their kids don't follow the development path the parents want.
Don't expect someone else to do your job for you.
I guess what I am trying to say...if you think Obama teaching, or even becoming President is the problem, you are missing the forrest for the trees. In every college in the country hundreds of thousands kids every day are taught this way, right at the age where they have become disillusioned with much of their upbringing and are looking for truth, and to head their own better direction in life. And the lefties are overhwhelmingly in control of that phase of their lives. And the main reason is because they are there and the righties are not. Period.
Is it some conspiracy? I don't know but I know if you were intent on changing the culture of America, and wanted it to be more of a state society without a massive war or military coup then you would need to control the major media outlets, and the education system before you could take control of the political system in a few generations. There's no doubt who controls the media and the higher education system and has for quite some time. It is a landslide lefty victory. And if it is a conspiracy then it is a brilliantly executed one.
I myself am amazed that anyone comes out of the college education system with any sort of conservative or traditional view. I look at it almost every day and try to figue out it happens with the ones who do come out of college, and basicaly is that they either had some kind strict religious upbringing or they are older and have the benefit of enough life experience to know the lefties are just as full of on somethings as their parents were when they were children.
But they overhwelmingly give college students lefty programming and it is backed thoroughly by the media. The only reason this country didn't go totally left 20 years ago or more, has nothing to do with anything the righties have don0e proactively, but rather the charisma of Reagan and the fact that most leftyism at it's heart, sucks just as bad as rightyism and enough kids keep figuring that out a decade or so after getting out of school to keep it from being a lefty rout.
You can about all you want but the only way to change it is to get in there and gets your hands dirty yourself. If the lefties are willing to work harder at this than the righties, the fault lies with the righties, not the lefties.
Being free doesn't mean you get to be lazy. And Obama teaching Alinski would have jack bearing on your life right now if it wasn't because of the overwhelming advantage the righties concede to the lefties in college.
Last edited by whottt; 03-26-2010 at 05:03 AM.
I approve of this whottt post.
"it is backed thoroughly by the media"
You Lie
Corporate media, and not just, Murdoch Repug Network Lies, is not librul.
The corporate media that let it itself get hoodwinked by Breitbart to kill ACORN?
The corporate media that didn't stop the bogus neo-c*nt invasion of Iraq-for-oil?
The corporate media that gives equal weight to right-wing lies and then tries to look legitimate by legitimizing the lies in a masquerade of "equal" coverage of both sides?
This bull proves that I-love-my-amazing-self-more-than-anything Whott is nothing but a tool of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
If all these lefty-radicalized college kids destroying America, then why is the VRWC claiming America is naturally conservative, that the Repug party is America's Party?
There is absolutely nothing on the left that comes anywhere close to the multi-decade VRWC. WP and NYT are supposed to be bastions of East Coast liberal establishment, but they both are really neo-c*nt.
Please note: even boutons didn't refute what I said about the college education system. I can tell every rightwinger on this forum...you are getting routed in the colleges.
I don't think most conservatives here understand...I mean, really understand.
The libs like what Obama says and does. What may outrage you, is no big deal to them. Whatever it takes man. They don't have a problem with it.
All your outrage does nothing but invite the inevitable muddying of the waters..."they all do it...this is no big deal...quit whining." Which all boils down to, "we like what he's doing and we don't care about how he's doing it."
Outrage about leftist leanings and methods generally doesn't affect those who support those leftist ideals and methods...and leftists dominate most political forums. They wont admit to it cuz they are liars...but they agree with Obama and Alinsky. Mostly because politics and govt are the means to leftists goals... of more govt and more politics.
Both of which conservatives want less of.
So, what outrages normal, freedom/liberty loving people...makes them happy.
The only reason conservatives are now more involved...is because leftists have went too far, and are affecting conservatives everyday lives by the only means leftists can...through govt and politics.
Always been this way, always has. Leftists always want larger govt and more govt control.
Think of it as the old analogy...the pencil guy who buys a corvette trying to make up for it. Just subs ute govt and politics for the corvette...and you have your average leftist guy.
...and so it goes, and so shall it ever go.
Mmmreally? Like who? Or were you just speaking abstractly?Outrage about leftist leanings and methods generally doesn't affect those who support those leftist ideals and methods...and leftists dominate most political forums. They wont admit to it cuz they are liars...but they agree with Obama and Alinsky.
SouthernFried, I wasn't aware we had an anarchist on this board. Congratulations for being the board's first that I know of!
Ran off and hid.
SF doesn't really do conversation. More like smug bits.
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