Obama's stimuls package for India

[Winehole23]

*Medicare cuts* LOL

[coyotes_geek]

The health bill does something for the sake of the uninsured that taxpayers already pay for, for the sickos who can't get and/or keep health insurance, etc, etc.

Right. The taxpayers end up footing the bill just like they were before, only now instead of just footing the bill for the uninsured, they're stuck footing the bill for the uninsured plus new layers of inefficient federal bureacuracy. The government hasn't done anything to lower costs, they've just dealt themselves into the scam and probably bought themselves some votes in the process.

End result: we'd have been better off doing nothing

[coyotes_geek]

It's dead easy to pay for health care for all.

Drop all subsidies and tax breaks for oil/gas/coal. GAMEOVER

Drop all subsidies for corn-ethanol and soy-diesel GAMEOVER

Kill Medicare Advantage (which costs govt 10%+ than non-Advantage), and drop the 10s of $Bs in subsidies to for-profit insurers to play Medicare Advantage. GAMEOVER

Kill the dubya estate tax cuts. GAMEOVER

Great. Now all we need is a majority of congress and the president to come out and support cutting subsidies. What? There aren't any? GAMEOVER

[panic giraffe]

I call bull . We got the ty deal Obama cut with special interests sub rosa, beforehand, more or less.

so obama runs the HC companies?
without a public option? explain.

[panic giraffe]

We need a bigger supply of health professionals, not demand :p

the demand will create a supply.

if you want a for sure job in the next 5 years.

go to nursing school.

it's going to be like the auto industry of the 50's.

[Winehole23]

so obama runs the HC companies?
without a public option? explain.

Obama negotiated with HC companies before the fact; their participation was conditioned on there being no public option, according to legend.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe the health care legislation will also stimulate the airlines industry due to the mandated treatments being cheaper in other countries.

[panic giraffe]

... according to legend.

SO you're saying you can't explain?