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Yes.. It was weird he just didnt wanted to answer the question i guess.
+1 And i love your sig.
Yes.. It was weird he just didnt wanted to answer the question i guess.
Taking the "load off of" them is one thing. My concern is him taking more shots than them, which always happens. Plus, the soft defense I mentioned before.
What a selfish prick !!!!!!
you think? he's probably getting tired of trying to explain to Eva how the Spurs can be beating the best teams while he's in a suit.What a selfish prick !!!!!!
It seems you have forgotten who tony parker is... and a lot on this board have the last couple of weeks.
Sad.
Sacrébleu !
Anyone who thinks Parker would handle being demoted to the bench without a fuss is dreaming. It's my single biggest concern going into the playoffs. I'm very worried he'll demand to start, Pop will appease him and it'll up our chemistry.
Obviously I'd rather have Tony in the rotation than Mason, but he shouldn't be a starter.
SENSELESS HATE FAIL THREAD.
TP has been injured and so haters come out of hiding.
Haters say crap without backing it up with facts.
Hater assertion: TP takes bad shots.
FACT: tp shot 49% this year hurt. that is excellent, and is below his fg% the last few years, which has been 50%+.
Hater assertion: tp is a ball hog.
fact: tp has averaged 6 assists for his career, and this year he averaged 5.7 Considering that manu was out and the other players were new, it makes sense his assists would be down, but that is slight.
Spurs are playing better now, true. But TP is not the reason. It is because manu is feeling better and "clicked," because Hill has been playing above his head, and RJ is finally producing.
Hopefully all those things continue after TP returns, but don't think having a one man fast break and a 50% shooting firecracker is bad for the team. That is moronic.
Ahh, the good old Tony Parker hate after the Spurs win a game..no stats to back up the claims, nothing..very simple-minded thinking, as usual..
Look, I'm on the bandwagon of Parker coming off the bench..I wasn't before, but I am now..it's probably a better idea..please stop bringing BS here though, please..the stats don't back up most of these claims..
-George Hill's D has been just as bad as TP's during the stretch that TP has been out..this isn't arguable, it's pretty clear..Hill was getting torched routinely up until this last week or so..it's extremely tough for perimeter players to play D and have a load on offense, especially as a PG and especially with today's rules..Hill is probably the most overrated defender on this team, although he's pretty good at times, I'm just saying..Parker's D hasn't been a liability before, it won't be now, as long as he's healthy..
-I agree that Parker playing hurt did hurt the Spurs, but you can say that about Manu and TD as well..Manu was shooting less than 40% from the field for most of the 1st half of the season and taking bad shots..Duncan was playing some horrible games up until these last few weeks..TP hurts more because he handles the ball more, but it's obvious to expect an injured player to hurt the team when he's hobbled..
-Manu's hot streak has NOOOTTTTTTHHHHHHIIIIINNNNGGGG to do with Tony being out..there's absolutely no argument for this..Ginobili struggled for the entire 1st half of the season from a scoring perspective, and this was when he was coming off the bench, so he wasn't even playing with Parker most of the time..Manu's emergence is clearly the primary reason the Spurs are so hot..if Manu was playing like this earlier, of course the Spurs would have been better, he's 1/3 of our big 3..
Manu himself admitted that he had confidence issues early on due to not playing basketball for so long..he's clearly confident and healthy now, he has been for over a month now and it's paid dividends, it has nothing to do with Parker at all..these guys have won 3 les together, I think they know how to play together..
-Jefferson is playing a lot better..this one has a little to do with TP, but not as much as you would think..RJ's assisted % has BARELY gone up since TP went out, meaning he's clearly been calling his own number offensively..he's a lot more aggressive, he's rebounding better and he's defending a lot better..this also has to do with chemistry, and it means Jefferson obviously realized he must step up in Parker's absence..
-Parker has never had a problem with touches or getting others involved..in case some people have forgotten, Tony actually SAID the Spurs need to bring in more talent, and he was one of the more excited guys about the RJ acquisition..he'll have no problems letting him get his own touches..
-Manu is old, so is Duncan..while it's always nice to have them get a lot of touches, they can't be carrying the load too much, so of course it helps to have a guy that is a top 3-5 PG in the NBA when he's healthy..these 2 aren't always going to be on their games, Parker is going to be needed to beat the better teams and exploit key mismatches..
-Parker returning means Roger Mason no longer plays..it means Bogans plays less and it means Manu doesn't have to play too many minutes, which will allow him to be fresh for 4th quarters..there have also been plenty of games where Hill has played poorly, so it obviously helps to have an all-star there in case..
-The Spurs won their last 5 games with Parker in the lineup, beating Memphis, New Orleans twice, Phoenix and OKC..the signs were starting to show before he got injured, due to the improvement and emergence of other key players..
-The Spurs 3 best lineups this season all involve Tony Parker..so while he was having an off-season until his injury, he was still valuable and there were other key guys(Manu, RJ) that were playing worse at the time..
Tony was saying he sees the team is hurting at his position and he wants to help. That is what he meant, I think it was pretty clear from the situation.
That is what a compe or means; manu and duncan have said similar things when the team was losing and they were on the bench.
I am sure he is not being selfish saying he wants to play personally, although ego is an important part of being a big player.
Aww. Boo-hoo. You definitely care more about hating Tony than the Spurs' winning, you bag.
can't repeat this enough
as DAF said.. we're winning despite missing tony, not because of it
manu's playing at a really high level right now. I personally wasn't that optimistic he'd ever be THIS guy again. He's surprised us.
I think we forget how good a guy is when we don't see him play at that level for a while due to injury. I think a lot of us forget how good tony can be when he's right. I want that guy playing lots of minutes on my team. Can't wait for him to get back and see what he's got going. Exciting times.
Um, 49% isn't too hot for a guard who very seldom shoots 3s. Basically it means we get 2 pts for every 2 shots he takes. Guys like Bonner and Hill have better rates than that because they shoot over 35% from three. Also, FT%-wise, TP is pretty average for a guard.
As for his passing, 6 apg isn't too impressive for a guy who has the ball 35+ mins a night. And his assist-to-turnover ratio is a career worst.
Stop the hate for once plz, im ing tired of reading hate threads after a huge W.
WTF is wrong with you guys.
Well Phila_Chamberlain just said in another thread that Hill is on crutches and it doesn't seem like he can put any weight on the foot.
All you people saying we don't need TP are not thinking very clearly. We need him back for sure even before this Hill injury, I don't know about starting him with our current chemistry, but we definitely NEED TP.
We are talking about basketball here, right?
He's played like most of the season largely bcause he was banged up from all that in national play. We've played the best ball all year with him gone. Him coming back, may kill the chemistry..
What the are you guys on?
TP was starting to lock in and his FOCUS was going right up before he was injured. I think he was feeling better physically too so he was starting to play better.
How much winning were we doing with him exactly? I'm just going by the facts. However it happened, whatever twist of fate it was, this group stumbled into a winning formula and a good starting five.
The starting five when Tony was in was getting killed almost every game. Is that incorrect?
TP did what Ginobili is doing right now last year when Manu went down and helped us get a 3 seed. A little memory please.
+1
Another thread like this again. Why the hate peskypesky? Some reactions are indeed really sad.
Of course we need TP, yeah we won without him, that's awesome and great, Manu really surprised and stepped up, he carried this team like TP carried us last year. But still, we need TP, especially in the playoffs if we want to have any success. We miss a boosting force in points/offense, there is a gap, and it needs to be filled, plus it would take the heavy load off Manu.
Yeah "facts" like this one:
It might just be me but I would rather have Manu, Tony and Tim running at 100% than Tim, Manu and RJ (or someone else) running at 100%.
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