WasPo: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'

[ChumpDumper]

crickets.

Crickets for what?

Did you actually say something?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Well then, since we've established that you don't think the whole tea party reflects the views of the extremists in their midst, I'm sure you'll want to clarify this:

clarify what? those people who claim he's a marxist, socialist are either stupid or liars..I stand by that.. find where I claim that all tea partiers are extremists..I'll wait for you

[George Gervin's Afro]

crickets.

that's what I'll call you from now on ..cricket..

[ducks]

if palin answered a question for 17 minutes people would say shut up let them ask you more questions

[balli]

if palin answered a question for 17 minutes people would say shut up let them ask you more questions

lol Palin can't remember enough buzzwords and slogans to speak coherently for 17 minutes. Not for one minute. , she couldn't remember the words 'energy' 'tax cuts' and 'lift the American spirit' without writing them in her ing palm.

The only persons in America more dumb than Palin are Trig and you, ducks.

[Spurminator]

We 'Muricans don't like talkin' folk.

[TeyshaBlue]

clarify what? those people who claim he's a marxist, socialist are either stupid or liars..I stand by that.. find where I claim that all tea partiers are extremists..I'll wait for you

Lets follow the logic chain, shall we?

The exchange starts with the little ball of hate's enlightend observation:

The absolutely re ed op and idiot dead-enders like misinformation packed into trite little slogans.

Complexity is lost on them. It's a sad day in America that when a president takes time to throughly engage with the citizenry and he gets mocked for... what exactly? Not answering with some moronic ing three word slogan

Here, balli establishes, thru the use of the collective, them, that there is a population (dead-enders) that like misinformation packed into trite little slogans. (Please, try to endure the onslaught of irony that this brings forth).
He further adds that complextiy is something that "they" cannot grasp.

So, we have a population labled dead-enders that cannot grok complex issues and like slogans.

Next, florige offers his considered condensation of balli's point.

Isn't that the Teaparty's whole MO though?

Florige posits that the Tea Partys' MO, their "whole MO" is represented by the balli-esque "dead-enders" inability to grasp complex issues and to rely on trite sloganeering.
Still with me? At this point we have now labled the Tea Party as dead-enders who exhibit the same traits you lend to the extremists.

Here, you could've simply culled the herd and labled the extremists as outriders rather than the mainstream population but, rather than suggesting that not all Tea Party members are dead-enders, instead you round them all up in the "They" corral....ergo extremists = tea party.

Why would you expect different?
They are against marxism and socialism...doesn't mean they understand the true meaning of the words... but they are against them..

Since there was no delineation of the Tea Party by you, the deductive trail leads to balli's "dead-enders", simpletons of some magnitude = Tea Party.

See, it's not difficult. You do have to pay attention to what is being said.

GGA thread scorecard:
[ ] Lead
[x] Follow
[ ] Get the out of the way.


btw, I hold similar views of the nutbars on both the right and the left.

[TeyshaBlue]

That's what Obama does. He talks and talks and talks and doesn't give people a chance to respond to his bull anwsers. After 17 minutes he finsihes with "I hope that answers your question" and moves on. Obama wins again!!!!!

A response is generally better than none.

[Blake]

A response is generally better than none.

A sincere response to the question is generally better than none.

None would have been better than this response: "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

[TeyshaBlue]

A sincere response to the question is generally better than none.

None would have been better than this response: "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

ROFL...that one still makes my head hurt.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Lets follow the logic chain, shall we?

The exchange starts with the little ball of hate's enlightend observation:

Here, balli establishes, thru the use of the collective, them, that there is a population (dead-enders) that like misinformation packed into trite little slogans. (Please, try to endure the onslaught of irony that this brings forth).
He further adds that complextiy is something that "they" cannot grasp.

So, we have a population labled dead-enders that cannot grok complex issues and like slogans.

Next, florige offers his considered condensation of balli's point.



Florige posits that the Tea Partys' MO, their "whole MO" is represented by the balli-esque "dead-enders" inability to grasp complex issues and to rely on trite sloganeering.
Still with me? At this point we have now labled the Tea Party as dead-enders who exhibit the same traits you lend to the extremists.

Here, you could've simply culled the herd and labled the extremists as outriders rather than the mainstream population but, rather than suggesting that not all Tea Party members are dead-enders, instead you round them all up in the "They" corral....ergo extremists = tea party.



Since there was no delineation of the Tea Party by you, the deductive trail leads to balli's "dead-enders", simpletons of some magnitude = Tea Party.

See, it's not difficult. You do have to pay attention to what is being said.

GGA thread scorecard:
[ ] Lead
[x] Follow
[ ] Get the out of the way.


btw, I hold similar views of the nutbars on both the right and the left.

So you couldn't find where I said all tea baggers were extremists?.. instead of rambling on and trying to tie my statements to others you could have just admitted you were wrong..

so now we have stablished that those who call obama a socialist/marxist/communist are either stupid or liars.. great group of people!

[TeyshaBlue]

So you couldn't find where I said all tea baggers were extremists?.. instead of rambling on and trying to tie my statements to others you could have just admitted you were wrong..

Well, I do tend to ramble from time to time. But, as I demonstrated, you jumped on the extremists ergo tea party (not tea baggers..you're really not helping your arguement here), bandwagon with balli and florige. Is it not a reasonable assumption to think you agreed with them? Deductive logic certainly agrees with me. Your plausible deniability defense is distinctively GOP.
*edit to address your edit*

so now we have stablished that those who call obama a socialist/marxist/communist are either stupid or liars.. great group of people!

I would agree that those who call Obama a socialist/marxist/communist are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. But, they don't represent the spoons and forks either. P.S. Great people can be and often are, wrong. Be all you can be, GGA.

[ElNono]

Would have been interesting to read what Obama actually answered, IMO, instead of the reader's digest version. Not that I don't believe the OP, but just to give it a contrast...

[George Gervin's Afro]

Well, I do tend to ramble from time to time. But, as I demonstrated, you jumped on the extremists ergo tea party (not tea baggers..you're really not helping your arguement here), bandwagon with balli and florige. Is it not a reasonable assumption to think you agreed with them? Deductive logic certainly agrees with me.

*edit to address your edit*


I would agree that those who call Obama a socialist/marxist/communist are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. But, they don't represent the spoons and forks either. P.S. Great people can be and often are, wrong. Be all you can be, GGA.

Let me state clearly that I do not think all tea party participants are nut jobs.

[Bartleby]

Would have been interesting to read what Obama actually answered, IMO, instead of the reader's digest version. Not that I don't believe the OP, but just to give it a contrast...

I'm sure WC will remind us of the need to see the full context of Obama's reply so we don't get a distorted picture of what happened.

[TeyshaBlue]

Let me state clearly that I do not think all tea party participants are nut jobs.

Well, thanks. That's all I was getting at.

[TeyshaBlue]

Would have been interesting to read what Obama actually answered, IMO, instead of the reader's digest version. Not that I don't believe the OP, but just to give it a contrast...

Indeed. There's probably quite a bit of info to pull from the entire response.

[Drachen]

Ok. I laughed my butt off here.

[EmptyMan]

Not answering with some moronic ing three word slogan.

You watch your mouth! That wins elections.

[balli]

You watch your mouth! That wins elections.

Or not...

Fight Them There Not Here
Stay the Course
Shock and Awe
Axis of Evil
Gathering Threat
Mushroom Cloud
Support The Troops
War on Terror
Drill Baby Drill
Mission Accomplished
Socialist/fascist/communist- I don't really know what the I'm saying, but it sounds bad.
Maverick
Joe Six Pack
Country First
The Real America


Want me to keep going?

[TeyshaBlue]

Hope and Change?

[coyotes_geek]

Indeed. There's probably quite a bit of info to pull from the entire response.

I doubt it. Politicians spin questions to avoid having to admit to someone that they might not like what one of their policies results in. Obama was trying to spin the question, only he's not very good working off-script so he rambled.