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I WILL remember this...
and bump it when it happens...
can't believe how spurs fans tend to believe so much....in the LAKERS.
I think lakers will go full strength vs. Portland. Among the 3 teams, lakers prefer to play Spurs last. By beating portland, spurs will very unlikely finish in 8th (Since spurs have a tie breaker over thunder)
will be very interesting to see how this plays out...but imo Thunder vs Lakers in first round is quite epic
I WILL remember this...
and bump it when it happens...
can't believe how spurs fans tend to believe so much....in the LAKERS.
No, because usually Blair has only one other big on the floor with him (and half the time the other big is Bonner). If you put him in there with Duncan and McDyess behind him, it's not nearly as bad a matchup. As was mentioned, RJ can also be thrown at Odom for as long as it remains successful.
It's like I said, "just put Bonner on Sheed on defense and it will cancel out."
the Lakers and Mavs, why are you people so scared of them? the Lakers are beatable and the Mavs haven't played a healthy Spurs team the whole season so until I see the final game I still believe the Spurs can go to the Finals, Have some faith
The Mavs will very likely be playing for the #2 seed in that game. They'll be motivated to win it.
I am with you...
it is leaving me with a completely disgusting feeling with my fellow spurs fans...
no swagger---no confidence---no faith---
all you hear is...
we HAVE to AVOID the lakers...blah-blah
we gotta get the 6 or 7th seed---blah-blah
we have no chance against the lakers....blah-blah
we are getting swept by the lakers....parker is NOT ready....bynum will be back....
laker frontline destroys us....pop is owned by PJ...kobe this--kobe that...lamar odom is a mismatch blah-blah...
on & on & on.....
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grow a pair of balls already....
where is the NO-LIMIT COMMANDER ALREADY....
someone fire up the ing pussy fanbase
THE LAKERS!
bring them on ----they are OVERRATED....
and I want the Mavs in the first round, kind of a pay back from last year, the Spurs can win the series
The way I see it is Dallas wraps up the #2 seed with a victory tonight against the Clips. Seeds 3-5 will still be up in the air with Phx playing both Utah and Denver still. Although no one scares me right now, of course if you can it'd be nice to avoid LA and Dallas in the first round. I'm very curious how teams are going to be resting their players to avoid playing a certain team.
OKC- 49-30
SA-49-31
Portland- 48-31
What we Know: Spurs owns tiebreaker over OKC
Portland owns tiebreaker over Spurs
If Portland beats OKC on Monday they win the tiebreaker, if they lose they lose the tiebreaker because of divisional record
What we Need:
To get the 6th seed we need have a better record than Portland, and AT LEAST the same record as OKC.
Sunday - Lakers vs Portland: If Portland beats LA than we drop down to 8th this evening. Does LA sit Kobe or rest anyone? Is LA looking at records at all? They have struggled against Portland in the Rose Garden for years, but who would they rather play, Spurs or Portland? I'm hoping LA comes out and tries to right the ship and beat Portland.
Monday - OKC vs Portland: If all 3 teams take care of their "Should Win" games (Memphis, GS, Minny), than the Spurs MUST have Portland beat OKC on Monday night to have any chance at the 6th seed.
Wed- Spurs vs Mavs: By this time the Mavs will most likely have already wrapped up the #2 seed so their positioning won't matter with a win or loss. If Portland or OKC were to win out, than the Mavs would need to win this game to avoid the Spurs in the 1st round, and would put the Spurs as the 8th seed.
There are still a ton of different scenarios that could play out with upsets by teams like Memphis or Golden State. But the best Case for the Spurs to get the 6th seed would be for a Lakers win over Portland. And a Portland win over OKC. Either way we need to take care of business.
Mavs will have wrapped up the #2 seed with a win over the Clippers or a Denver loss to Memphis. My bet is they wrap it up tonight and seeding for them won't matter
No.
Utah has the head-to-head tie breaker on the Mavs. So if the Jazz win out and Denver loses a game, Utah wins that division and has the tie breaker.
Denver plays @ MEM on Monday then @ PHX on Tuesday. They could easily lose one of those games.
Utah plays @ GSW on Tuesday then at home against PHX on Wednesday. The Jazz likely win these two.
So if Utah wins out and Denver loses a game, the Mavs will be ahead of Utah by one game (assuming the beat the Clippers) and Utah has the tie breaker.
Dallas will have to beat the Spurs to keep the #2 seed.
edit: Actually the only way for the #2 seed to be settled by Wednesday is for Denver to win out.
I'm not sitting here rooting for the Spurs to get the Lakers, but I'm not quivering in fear either.
- Even if Bynum is back, his history of missing significant time with injuries and looking anything close to resembling the player he was pre-injury is less than good. He could easily be totally out of sync and tentative, just like he was the other two times.
- Bryant, at this writing, is not as good a player as Ginobili. It he get's an off season of rest and recovery and has his minutes/work load managed next season, I suspect he will be better than Ginobili again, but right now, he's not.
- Bryant is clearly physically worn down, even two games off did virtually nothing to change that, which tells you it's not the type of fatigue that a few days off will solve, it's the type that comes from having a ton of mileage, playing an insane amount of basketball over a three year span and needing an extended off season off.
- The Spurs easily trump the Lakers in terms of depth and guard play.
- True, the game is usually won in the paint, but the Spurs back court advantage might be equal, if not greater, than the Lakers big man advantage (depending on Bynum).
- Even at their best, the Lakers struggle covering quick, pick-and-roll oriented, penetrating guards. The Spurs just so happen to have three of these.
- The Spurs look like the fresher team and they're definitely playing better and have been for more than a while.
All this being said, I'd still favor the Lakers and I'd be somewhat surprised if the Spurs won, but would I be shocked or stunned? Absolutely not.
As for the Mavs, they're not nearly as tough a match-up for the Spurs as many think. Sure, they're better equipped to guard Duncan than ever with Haywood/Dampier, but those two aren't exactly Gasol/Bynum, meaning they won't hurt Blair/Bonner at the rim as consistently because they're not as good of scorers as Gasol/Bynum.
This is an even series. In fact, statistically the Spurs are a better team and I'd expect them to win this series. It's not a near given or a guarantee obviously, but I wouldn't even be somewhat surprised if they won this series.
Give us the ing Fakers now, so they don't get to see how we can be exploited by the Mavs in the first round.
People never learn. A lot of you sound very similar to last year when you were asking for the Mavs.
with a healthy team this year could be different from last year, last year we didn't have a full team and this year we have younger players.
We don't have a healthy team this year. In fact, our team is arguably more injured.
The Warriors r trying to do the Spurs a big favor: Up 102 to 99 vs OKC w/ about 5min to play.
I guess we'll just ignore the vastly different state and personnel that the Spurs are entering this post season with, compared to last post season.
GS beat OKC just now
If we win out, we will get at least the seventh seed.
Monday:
OKC vs Portland in Portland arena
SA vs Minnesota in SA arena (AT&T Arena)
Scenario 1: OKC wins and SA wins. OKC becomes 50-31, Trailblazers become 49-32, Spurs become 50-31. Spurs are in 6th seed and retain it with a win in Dallas.
Scenario 2: Portland wins and SA wins. Portland's record becomes 50-31, OKC's record becomes 49 wins 32 losses. Spurs' record becomes 50-31. Spurs are guaranteed no worse than 7th seed. If Spurs beat Dallas and GSW beats Portland (on Wed), then Spurs get 6th seed. Else, Spurs get 7th seed.
Scenario 3: OKC wins and Spurs lose. OKC record becomes 50-31. Trailblazers record becomes 49 wins 32 losses. Spurs record becomes 49 wins and 32 losses. Spurs enter 8th place. If either GSW loses or Portland loses and Spurs win, Spurs sneak into 7th place and avoid the Lakers.
Scenario 4: Portland wins and SA loses. Portland's record becomes 50-31, OKC's record becomes 49 wins 32 losses. Spurs' record becomes 49 wins 32 losses. Spurs enter 7th spot. If OKC wins their last game and Spurs lose their last game, Spurs record becomes 49 wins 33 losses and they find themselves in eighth place, facing the Lakers in the first round. Else, Spurs enter playoffs in 7th spot (either an OKC loss or a Spurs win puts them in 7th spot and they can't overtake Portland since even a win against Dallas and a Portland loss results in both teams having a 50 win 32 loss season - with Portland holding the tiebreaker against the Spurs).
Wednesday:
GSW vs Portland in Portland arena
Memphis vs OKC in OKC arena
SA vs Dallas in Dallas arena (American Airlines Center)
Blazers will go 2-0, OKC 1-1 and the spurs 2-0 or 1-1 depending on dallas securing the 2nd spot before wednesday or not.
No matter what happens, spurs are gonna play dallas
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