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    Two Spurs related thoughts about that:

    First, this high number is a good news for Spurs. With a higher luxury tax level, they will have less financial constraints this summer.

    Second, it makes the Ginobili extension looked better. A higher cap space number means that odds would have been higher of a team offering big money to Manu. The extension ensures that nobody will steal "our" Manu.
    I'm betting Manu wasn't extended until they got this number. Once they had it in hand, they gave Rudoy a call.

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    didn't Manu get the most SA could possibly offer? I don't see how this or anything else could make that look better, did they not even try to negotiate? did they actually think someone was going to offer him the same money as Lebron? the freaking MAX!!! they had plenty of bargaining chips, yet they couldn't even bring it down a few million?!?
    Manu is STILL a bargain at the spurs max rate---plus he has taken reasonable deals in the past---he could have been greedy years before this...

    appreciate him

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    Good news

    Since Holt has now gone Big Baller on us and isn't afraid to spend money, this will give the team even more money to toss around.

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    didn't Manu get the most SA could possibly offer? I don't see how this or anything else could make that look better, did they not even try to negotiate? did they actually think someone was going to offer him the same money as Lebron? the freaking MAX!!! they had plenty of bargaining chips, yet they couldn't even bring it down a few million?!?
    What bargaining chips?

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    What bargaining chips?
    age, health, consistency, the fact that no one else has actually offered him anything yet...

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    age, health, consistency, the fact that no one else has actually offered him anything yet...
    None of those outweigh Manu's carrying the team at the end of the season and the many, many season ticket holders that refused to renew until Manu was re-signed.

    Besides, what difference would a couple million a year make at this point?

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    check out the article on yahoo sports talking about the league already KNEW the cap would not be as low as they first stated---(50-51 mil)---and the charge of COLLUSION--

    against Stern and the NBA---

    stating that this LOW cap---kept other teams from going after TOP free agents....hmmm
    ??? Nobody had cap room last year. It may have kept 2-3 teams from spending their MLE, but then again, they may not have spent it had they known that this number would pop up.

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    None of those outweigh Manu's carrying the team at the end of the season and the many, many season ticket holders that refused to renew until Manu was re-signed.

    Besides, what difference would a couple million a year make at this point?
    You're talking to someone who thinks the Spurs shouldn't have spent more than the MLE. You're also talking to someone who thinks Kobe Bryant is one of the 2 greatest players in NBA history. Really, I'm not ting you:

    Really? Can you tell me how much they're paying for the Walton/Vujacic/Fisher trio?

    I guess you magic ball can also tell you Kobe will be worth the $30M they'll be paying him 3 years from now...

    yeah those are huge, terrible, crippling contracts

    and Kobe's contract will hurt them, that is kind of a legacy situation, all time great, career Laker, etc.

    there's a difference between the 2nd best (maybe even best) player of all time, and just another good NBA player, you can bet the Lakers would never pay 40 million for an aging Manu
    Last edited by baseline bum; 04-16-2010 at 11:04 PM.

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    You're talking to someone who thinks the Spurs shouldn't have spent more than the MLE. You're also talking to someone who thinks Kobe Bryant is one of the 2 greatest players in NBA history. Really, I'm not ting you:
    I just found out that Vander is a distant relative to the NBA's all-time cheapskate Clipper's owner Donald Sterling.

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    None of those outweigh Manu's carrying the team at the end of the season and the many, many season ticket holders that refused to renew until Manu was re-signed.

    Besides, what difference would a couple million a year make at this point?
    If the Spurs are going to start spending like the Lakers and Mavs, then no difference, but I think they still care about the lux tax, so that's a couple million a year they won't be spending on talent elsewhere, and Manu isn't going to be carying this team anywhere for those 3 years, we will need more talent, but I'm digressing into another issue...

    my only point here is that they didn't even try to negotiate and get a better value for their dollar, seems like they're just throwing in the towel and are happy to field a slightly +.500 team for 3 more years...

    what would have been the harm in letting Manu hit the FA market, and waiting for some other team to offer him 39 mil before offering him that much? and that would never have even happened, I doubt any other team even offers him 30, and I bet he would have taken a little less to stay in SA...

    just bad business from the Spurs FO
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    I just found out that Vander is a distant relative to the NBA's all-time cheapskate Clipper's owner Donald Sterling.
    'A fool and his money are soon parted'
    Sterling is just relieving those foolish fans of their money

    those clipper fans need to stop going to the games while the team sucks, provide the incentive for Sterling to field a compe ive team

    Clipper fan is the model of the diehard fan, getting their blind loyalty exploited like that which is why Fair Weather Fans rule

    a lot of people on this site going to get their blind loyalty exploited in the coming years...

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