Barbosa was a pick dictated by Phoenix because of a trade.
Salmons was a pick dictated by Philly because of a trade.
Leon Smith was Don Nelson's pick because of a trade.
Felipe Lopez was a Vancouver pick because of trade.
The above players while drafted by the Spurs officially, were picked because a trade preceded the selection and they were selecting the players that the other team asked them to.
That tells me the Spurs brass either didn't like who was left on the board at that point or simply felt they were doing better by making a trade. Remember this team does not necessarily like taking on guaranteed first round contracts unless they really believe the guy will be on the roster.
That leaves Hill, Parker, Mahinmi, Splitter and Udrih.
Udrih is still in the league, Parker is a stud, Hill is a stud, Mahinmi is the only disappointment. The jury is still out on Splitter but in light of the decisions made by the front office in the past, I like the odds.
I wouldn't mind watching Dexter Pittman and Dejuan Blair fight over rebounds...he's prob. a mid-2nd round pick that could potentially fall to us late in the draft.
Also think Damion James (1st rounder) could be a good 2-3 for us since we need to plan for the departure of RJ after next season.
This could just be my UT bias talking though.Pittman? Dude will be a bust in the pros, no thanks. James will go higher than 20.
i agree barbosa and salmons are players but yes, because they arent in spurs uniform it makes them bad picksThat is 2 good picks out of 9?! I'm guessing you are saying Parker and Hill. Barbosa, Splitter, Salmons???? Those are great picks in that range. Just because they never played in a Spurs uniform doesn't mean they weren't great picks
i guess you want us to pick some guys that will average 15 ppg for another team...ohhh we can only hope so
and if a big center from texas was mentioned in this thread that makes me laugh, no bias, that center just stinks at basketball, unless you want a big man who cant shoot, cant shoot free throws, has bad hands, has bad feet, lacks intelligence, cant stay out of foul trouble, has poor conditioning in a 40 min game, cant guard his man in the post, cant block shots, cant pass, is slow, a poor decision maker, has a bad at ude and failed time after time after time after time to do anything significant for four years in college. than the texas center is your man
Last edited by mookie2001; 04-17-2010 at 11:59 AM.
splitter was not a good pick, we're talking about reality, earth planet 2010, splitter is a bust
Pondexter would be good, but I also kind of like Gordon Hayward. He needs to hit the gym, but he's a fairly athletic, decent rebounder and defender and can flat out shoot the ball. I would only take him if we let Bonner walk though. Two Opie Cunninghams on the same team is a little much.
The most au ious aspect of Spurs draft day is that it seems we've finally scrapped that ing bull Euro-prospect-grab-and-stash piece of strategy that ed us for like four straight drafts.
that bull , pick us some american born athletes and whatever happens happens at least they are here (or in Austin)
Has the euro picks been poor picks? Well find out hopefully next season with splitter and maybe the following season with de colo. You might be right or you might be horribly wrong on your assessment.
Late second round, I don't mind taking a shot on him versus some Euro who won't see US soil before Parker retires.
I wouldn't be mad if they drafted James, but if Pondexter is still on the board at 20 I'd rather see them take him instead. He is more of a pure SF and James is more of a SF/PF tweener. Pondexter also has better all around skills...namely in the ball handling dept. James is a lot like Hairston, in that he can explode to the rim but has trouble if he is forced to dribble laterally and change directions.I wouldn't mind watching Dexter Pittman and Dejuan Blair fight over rebounds...he's prob. a mid-2nd round pick that could potentially fall to us late in the draft.
Also think Damion James (1st rounder) could be a good 2-3 for us since we need to plan for the departure of RJ after next season.
This could just be my UT bias talking though.
No I'm horribly correct.
From the draft in the summer of 2002 to 2005 we did the euro thing and the result was a team totally gutted of youth and athleticism for the playoffs in 2008 and 2009. Hill and Blair are the only two players to fix that situation for 2010.
One major injury proved to be the spurs downfall in 2008 and 2009 because of a lack of depth that was not old as dust.
We wasted like four straight drafts, and Iam Mahinmi and Splitter both count as wastes because neither of them have done jack yet.
It's no coincidence our last two impact rookies were good old fashioned american college players.
Every one before that after Parker has been a total waste of the spurs time and money and efforts so far.
And what do you base your opinion on Splitter being a bust?
I don't care who they draft, as long as they don't stash them overseas for 3 years. I would prefer a SF or a big, though.
Splitter = zero points scored, zero career wins = angel lov
please say no to dexter pittman. Please, no
Lol Dexter Pittman won't be drafted.
Damion James would be interesting if he fell to 20. He's a pretty bad perimeter defender though.
Pondexter or Hayward works for me. And whoever said Benzing in the second, I'm with you.
If Paul George is already taken in the draft, then I hope we get Pondexter.
First round:
Gordon Haywaord 6"8 SF/PF
+Good rebounder
+Smart Player
+Nice release
-tweener
- lateral quickness
James Anderson 6"6 SG
+80% FT
+Scorer
+Gets to the free throw line
- Defense
- Outside shooting
Quincy Pondexter 6'6 SF
+ NBA ready
2ND Round
Pablo Aguilar 6'8 PF
+ Great motor and smart
- Height
Luke Haragondy 6'7 SF/PG
+Can Score
-Lateral quickness
-Tweener
Time Ohlbrecht 6"11 or Benzing
+ White Robert Horry
- Foreign
-Need to take some roids
Maybe:
Gani Lawal 6'9
+ 7'0 wingspan
+ Taller Blair
i really like this years draft my first pick is paul george who can go in the lottery but could slip to the spurs but has the danny granger offense but paul could become a better offense creator when he gets stronger and needs to work on his pull up jumpers a bit but can get to the rim pretty good and also the kid could shoot lights out and has that trevor ariza defense who they compare him too with his length and how is a smart defense player who can also pick off alot of passes
from draftnet:
NBA Comparison: Trevor Ariza/Danny Granger
Strenghts : Has great length and athleticism ... Smooth player, makes plays look effortless ... He has good court vision and is an excellent passer ... His length combined with his release point make his jump shot difficult to contest ... Can finish around the basket with finesse or power and can do so with either hand ... Outstanding three point shooter, shot 44.7 percent from behind the arc as a freshman ... His greatest strength may be his ability to play the game with maturity and understanding of someone well beyond his years ... Allows the game come to him, does not force plays and rarely takes bad shots ... He's a good rebounder because of his length and timing, and should be even better as he adds weight to his frame ... Led Fresno State as a freshman with six double-doubles ... His wingspan and basketball IQ allow him to disrupt the game on the defensive end of the court ... Has a tremendous basketball frame with huge wingspan and the ability to put a lot of weight on his wide shoulders ... He averaged 1.7 steals and 1.0 block per game last season in the Western Athletic Conference.
Weaknesses: Listed at 6'7" 185, he'll need to add weight in order to absorb contact at the NBA level ... His first step and overall game is smooth rather than explosive, although strength should help him to become more explosive ... Has a tendency to play vertical, looks stiff at times on the court ... Good shooting percentages, but may need to speed up the release on his jump shot at the next level ... At times he can be unselfish to a fault ... Forty percent of his offensive attempts as a freshman were from the three point line, needs to become more adept at putting the ball on the floor ... Playing at Fresno State, there will be some criticism about his level of compe ion ...
2nd Round pick: Da'sean Butler
sucks he tore his acl but should still take this kid if he proves he is still decent in workouts even if he has to sit majority of next year kid can also shoot lights out and take it to the basket and a good on the ball defender also wouldnt be a huge risk and could be a high reward if he comes back well from the acl injury
NBA Comparison: Rasual Butler
Strengths: Versatile swingman with an old school game. Finds ways to score (17 ppg as a Junior). Excels in the mid-range, shooting effectively both off the dribble and in catch-and-shoot situations. Prefers to face up defenders in the triple threat position, create space with his frame, and step back for a jumper. Effective stroke off the dribble to either his right or left. Has enhanced three point range over his collegiate career, shooting 35% in five attempts per contest. Elevation on jumper is not ideal, but high release point alleviates some concern. Moves well without the ball, seeking out creases and making decisive cuts. Fairly creative around the basket, showing soft touch with a floater and using spin moves to evade traffic. Uses the glass extremely well. Comfortable finishing with his left hand. Strong offensive rebounder (2 per game for his career) as a result of positioning and hustle, regularly picking up garbage buckets. Saw a dramatic increase in free throw percentage last season from 64% to 76%. Aggressive defender, pressuring the ball and getting up in the grill of his man. Fights hard to defend the post against bigger opponents. Always stays low in his defensive stance
Weaknesses: Not an elite level athlete. Quickness and explosiveness are not staples of his repertoire. Plays 'below the rim'. Has difficulty beating defenders off the dribble, more often than not pulling up. Ball handling is adequate. He does not appear comfortable with multiple dribbles. Lack of ability to create for himself or others is a glaring weakness. Often overwhelmed athletically against top compe ion, settling almost entirely for three point attempts or long jumpers. Forced to take low percentage shots too often. At 6'7 225 he should spend more time in the paint. Needs to take advantage of his size and strength in the post against small opposition. Only a touch over three free throw attempts per game for his career. Lateral quickness is below average. Likely to be exposed guarding quicker wings at the next level.
Good result. Going ahead of both Portland and OKC.
The Spurs have not really blown very many #1's - Leon Smith was picked for the Mavs for sure in 99. Barbosa and Salmons were also picked for other teams I think. I really think Mahimi can play in the league like a lot of these other guys and it seems SA will really try to get Splitter in here too.
They have some good 2nd rounders too in the Duncan era. Manu, Blair, Scola. Not bad work.
OOPs, I missed your post when I posted. You said it better than I did. I also agree with you on the remaining guys. An 80-100% hit rate (the guy has a solid to great NBA game) is pretty good.
I agee about Pittman - his second half of the season made him an undraftable player. He was a lazy sack.
I like James. Udogh from Baylor would be a solid big for us. I think James could be available. Udogh might go higher than 20 since he is 6-9 or 6-10 and a shot blocker. I don't know a lot of the other guys outside the Big 12. Was Pondexter from Butler? He can score the ball if that's the guy I'm thinking of.
Do not like Pondexter. I would prefer a player that can go SF/PF. We need some size on the wing. We have enough 6-4 to 6-7 guys. In fact you can find talent like Pondexter all over the NBDL. I think he will be an early second round pick.
Barbosa was traded for a future #1 that turned into Nazi Mohammed. Salmons was traded for Speedy Claxton. I would argue each of those players helped SA in a material way win an NBA le when they were here.
As a result the use of the picks was not bad.
I hate Pittman as a basketball player, too. Fat, lazy and stupid doesn't work with the big boys in NBA.
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