i agree with all of this with the exception of hill....he needs to stay. his past shows that he will use this summer to get better again. i wouldn't want to see parker or blair go, but thats probably the only way we can get rid of rj. i would prefer blair the more i think about it, because as much as he can only get better, reality is he will have a 4 year nba career at best.
Depends on who might be playing for their team overseas this summer. Hopefully none.
Mason, Bonner,Bogans, and RJ are a must go. They don't deserve to sport the silver and black. They may try at times but they are not spurs material.
On Pop, I just whish we could get the Pop of old back, and not this washed up new aged Pop.
IF the Spurs lose (Im not even going to act like this team cant come back), theyre in great position.
They have two young, talented players in Blair and Hill and great expiring contract in Jefferson.
Stars would "prefer" sign-in-trades because they get the extra guaranteed year.
I think a Hill for Rudy Fernandez swap would really be good for both teams.
playoff level defense can shut down TP, his game is predictable and one dimensional.
I would try to move both TP and Jefferson if the price is right and someone really wants expiring contracts, we need to get a true PG and a volume scorer.
and a new HC
oh and@ everyone just saying Bonner and Mason (and RJ), Bonner and Mason weren't why we could win it this year, the Big 3 are are a s of their former selves, and much bigger changes are required than just a few role players way down the depth chart
I think I agree with most of the posters focusing on Mason, Bonner, and Bogans being gone.
Splitter, the 1st round pick (no Euros please) and a FA can come in.
Jefferson will be gone at next years trade deadline - hopefully SA can fetch a future #1 for him along with a longer contract.
Parker should only go if SA can get A LOT for him. This is the first year he has not improved as a player. He has just been bitten by the injury bug all year.
Unfortunately, SA may be on the Utah Jazz trajectory of the early 2000s. A good team, but no longer a legit playoff threat. I would hope the Spurs recognize this and try to rebuild more than reload. This roster is too limited in ability right now from player 1 to 12.
trading duncan and rj together building long term would make sence
oh wait spurs signed manu for 13 million for three years
tp can shoot threes well pop just tells tp his strength is to attackplayoff level defense can shut down TP, his game is predictable and one dimensional.
I would try to move both TP and Jefferson if the price is right and someone really wants expiring contracts, we need to get a true PG and a volume scorer.
and a new HC
oh and
he is not one dimensional
I don't think the salaries would match. Plus I think Hill is one of the few players with the chance to get better.
if Bonner is still a part of the team im not even going to watch.
I don't think Jefferson is really all that happy to be here. He seems to take a lot of the blame for the shortcomings of the team. The pressure of performing in SA is just too much for him.
jefferson off the bench could be manu
play the big three together limit their minutes
rj can be the main for the benchwith hill
let hill and rj develop together
LET THAT CHEMISTRY develop all season
rj should be able to excel in that role
play the manu and duncan around 25-30 minutes a game
The Bonner experiment must be over, it just hasn't worked.
The things being said about coaching here were being said last week in Dallas - I heard a lot of it.
I still think Pop gets a lot out of his players. The players he has just can't play well enough on a a consistent basis right now.
In prior years, no team would be able to shoot 50% from the 3 point line for 3 or 4 consecutive games.
Phoenix caught lightning in a bottle for a little while. Grant Hill and Steve Nash will be done in the next year or so and they will have to adjust. Despite what happened last night, Dragic will be a major drop off when Nash's back gives out.
He just played the game (actually the half a game) of his life.
Splitter
Rudy Fernandez
Sefelosha
Tyrus Thomas
Wait, WAIT A MINUTE:
First to all, the FO had to be absolutely sure which players are the best to fit the Spurs system.
I donīt want another fuc**** Jefferson Bonner Mason experiment here.
If they canīt do that, iīm gone.
Go
Bonner Bonner Bonner Bonner and
oh yeah
Bonner...
We need to trade RJ for something valuable, Bonner, Mason and Bogans need to go too. Frye would be a good fit for us (hard to get on the offseason I think), Tiago seems like is coming over.
Question: Would you consider a Tony Parker for Oden (or Pryzbilla), R.Fernandez, Batum and Andre Miller trade? Would Portland consider it?
Earlier this year Dragic had a 24 point half. He's never going to be a 2 time MVP or anything like that, but in a lot of ways building a championship team with him at PG will be a lot easier.
As for the Spurs, they're at a crossroads, best case scenario is their window is open 1 more year. The way Popovich and Duncan looked after the game last night, they don't seem like they wanna be doing this much longer, and Tim Duncan does not seem like one to pull a Patrick Ewing and play three years past when a good time to retire was.
I know most Spurs fans don't like the guy, but if LA is willing to trade Bynum for Parker they should consider it.
Frye is going to get a contract he's not worth this summer, it's gonna be long term and close to full MLE. If I'm wrong and he's cheaper then I hope the Suns bring him back, but the Spurs have never been a team that maxes out its MLE on a role player, and I'm hoping Kerr follows that ideology.
Trust me, you guys need Barbosa, Garrett Temple for Barbosa
i was jjust starting to like rj and all, but i really hope he does the early termination. that will free up a lot of cash to go for something bigger.
The offseason hasn't officially started and ST is still full of dumb trade proposal.
It will be a damn long summer...
shooting 3s does not add another dimension
did you even see any of the 3 games against phoenix? his deficiencies should never have been more apparent, he is a layup master and very little else, take away the layup, take away the paint, and he is less valuable than George Hill, his mid-range jumper is still below average by NBA standards, and his court-vision and basketball-creativity is in the bottom 25% for PGs
I thought vander was a Parker fan?
this is the type of post I least understand: it will be a long summer? WTF does that mean? like, after the long summer of talk, the Spurs will be contenders again, win it all, and show how stupid all that talk was? REALLY? you think that's going to happen?!?The offseason hasn't officially started and ST is still full of dumb trade proposal.
It will be a damn long summer...
the last 3 years of not winning championships weren't "long"?
only summers of discontent are "long"?
o low and misguided standards
Trading manu would be the smartest move. He will not play up to the contract when it is all said and done and should be moved before he goes into rapid decline.
Parker will be back strong after an offseson of rest and has many more upside years left than Manu.
Man, ducks is gonna hate on you . . .
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