Reply With Quotebtw, In a few semesters I'll have my bach in polisci.
I belive my gf's minor is cultural anthro, but I'm not sure.
btw, In a few semesters I'll have my bach in polisci.
Yeah that was one of the better things about studying antropology..it's like a 5-1 female to male ratio.
Ok since Jim disappeared(inspite of making several posts after my callout)...
Ok since we all agree that Israel and Jordan are located in what was referred to as Palestine I have a few questions for you...
1.Why is it that Jews from all over the world are welcomed to Israel, the smallest country in the Middle East, with open arms and given a chance at making a life, with a relatively high standard of living, for themselves?
2. Why are the Palestinians forced to live in squalor with little or no aid(other than an endless supply of funds and brainwashing for them kill themsevles as long as they take a few jews with them) from the Arab countries, mainly Jordan and Egypt?
3.In short...why do the Palestinians live, and continue to live in a hole environment of "opression" and "ethnic cleansing"?
Are they forced to live under those conditions, in those locations, or do they choose to do so?
4.Why wasn't the PLO crying for a Palestinian homeland when Gaza and West Bank were occupied by Egypt and Jordan?
In fact the PLO was formed 3 years before Israel took those lands in 67.
Why? Who founded the PLO? What was it's purpose? and most importantly...
5.Why aren't the Palestinians trying to get land from Jordan since it was also in the region once known as Palestine?
Anthropology and Astromony degree???? Man, I bet you are raking in the dough. :p
J/K, I liked my Anthropology class and aced it too.
Oh and forgot
6.Since there just has to be a Palestinian homeland because all the poor Palestinians have no place to live..
Why didn't Jordan want to form a Palestinian homeland? Why does Jordan call itself Jordan and not Palestine since they are so in tune with the plight of the Palestinians, in fact they are the Palestinians?
Why didn't they call their country Palestine? I mean that's where theyt are located right? They are Arabs indigenous to that area right?
sorry but a liberal arts degree and political bull are inextricably combined. You can't get one without the other. You actually think those courses you took in college weren't influenced by the political preferences of the professors? The specific course curriculum? The textbooks chosen? The subject the prof chose to stress? Damn...you are more naive than I thought.
5.Why aren't the Palestinians trying to get land from Jordan since it was also in the region once known as Palestine?
The biblical Palestine you are referring to also included Syria and part of the Sinai..."ownership" of these lands have changed hands many times over the years with it most recently (pre WW1) being ruled by the Turks. The Turks got hosed by the Allies after WW1 and all their lands confiscated because the picked the Axis side in the big one. happpens. Either way, the current residents of Jordan, Syria, and Egypt don't consider themselves Palestinians. The people that are now known as "Palestinians" could be better called "Former Israel Occupants" because they are the people whose land, businesses, homes, and property were confiscated by the Zionists...
You are trying to confuse the Biblical Palestinian with the modern Palestinian...they are not the same.
As far as I am concerned Arrafat and the PLO don't have the best interests of the Palestinians at heart any more than Jesse Jackson has the best interests of Black Americans at heart...4.Why wasn't the PLO crying for a Palestinian homeland when Gaza and West Bank were occupied by Egypt and Jordan?
In fact the PLO was formed 3 years before Israel took those lands in 67.
Why? Who founded the PLO? What was it's purpose? and most importantly...
They both have good gigs, make lots of money and get lots of pussy...thay ain't given that up for nuthin. In fact, the PLO's blatant avarice and self dealing is what gave rise to the new power of the Hezbolla.
1) lack of education...what schools they have in the camps are funded and run by the Hezbolla2. Why are the Palestinians forced to live in squalor with little or no aid(other than an endless supply of funds and brainwashing for them kill themsevles as long as they take a few jews with them) from the Arab countries, mainly Jordan and Egypt?
3.In short...why do the Palestinians live, and continue to live in a hole environment of "opression" and "ethnic cleansing"?
Are they forced to live under those conditions, in those locations, or do they choose to do so?
2) pure unadulterated hate for the Israelis
3) political expediency by the surrounding countries
4) a pure belief that they have been wronged and a hope that by resistance the wrong will be overturned.
5) indoctrination from birth about regaining their homeland
7) politics and religion mixed
No, I'm not trying to confuse the 2. In fact it was called Palestine after WW1.5.Why aren't the Palestinians trying to get land from Jordan since it was also in the region once known as Palestine?
The biblical Palestine you are referring to also included Syria and part of the Sinai..."ownership" of these lands have changed hands many times over the years with it most recently (pre WW1) being ruled by the Turks. The Turks got hosed by the Allies after WW1 and all their lands confiscated because the picked the Axis side in the big one. happpens. Either way, the current residents of Jordan, Syria, and Egypt don't consider themselves Palestinians. The people that are now known as "Palestinians" could be better called "Former Israel Occupants" because they are the people whose land, businesses, homes, and property were confiscated by the Zionists...
You are trying to confuse the Biblical Palestinian with the modern Palestinian...they are not the same.
You agreed with this point at the start of the debate...and I quote:
You'd make a damn fine Palestinian, I tell you.I will agree that that region was given the name Palestine when it was assigned as a British Protectorate after WWI.
And BTW, the Palestinians on the West Bank are Jordanians. It was part of Jordan and it's citizens were Jordanians prior to 1967.
I'll agree with that...Arrafat could give two s about his people, he is there to get rid of the jews. That is his goal, that was why he helped form the PLO prior to there even being any land disputes with Israel.As far as I am concerned Arrafat and the PLO don't have the best interests of the Palestinians at heart any more than Jesse Jackson has the best interests of Black Americans at heart...
They both have good gigs, make lots of money and get lots of pussy...thay ain't given that up for nuthin. In fact, the PLO's blatant avarice and self dealing is what gave rise to the new power of the Hezbolla.
Which is why the Palestinian movement is ed up in the first place.
When they most recently made peace and Israel was giving him money for peace he was pocketing it instead of using it to improve the living conditions in Gaza and West Bank.
The people were miserable, their quality of life did not improve, it was just like it was before(actually worse) and like that of every other Arab country..Arafat blamed the jews for it..like every leader in the middle east does.
Why would Israel, give him money, and then try to opress the Palestinians to a state of war?
You think the Jews give money away just for the of it? They wanted ing peace.
And why is that the jews problem? Why don't the Arab countries help them to get an education? The jews help other jews to do it. Why don't Arabs do the same for other Arabs?1) lack of education...what schools they have in the camps are funded and run by the Hezbolla
The sound more like you are pro Israeli so I don't really know what to say to them.2) pure unadulterated hate for the Israelis
3) political expediency by the surrounding countries
4) a pure belief that they have been wronged and a hope that by resistance the wrong will be overturned.
5) indoctrination from birth about regaining their homeland
7) politics and religion mixed
Other than yeah the Palestinians are ed over by the other Arab countries and their leaders.
One other question...
7.Which way do you think you would have a better chance of survival...
Being a jew in a Palestinian refugee camp...or being a Palestinian in Israel?
If you had to choose 1 which would you pick?
Thank you, CC... I feel edjamacated now...
1The majority of the Jews that are “welcomed” in Israel are poor Eastern Europeans (mainly from former USSR.) Israel offers them opportunities that their countries cannot fulfill. Back in the 70s, Romanian dictator Cheausescu was selling alleged Romanian Jews $500 a head to the Israeli government (Red Horizons, gen. Pacepa.).Why is it that Jews from all over the world are welcomed to Israel, the smallest country in the Middle East, with open arms and given a chance at making a life, with a relatively high standard of living, for themselves?
2.Palestinian refugees are being exploited for political purposes by other Arab countries. Jordan should absorb them since 85% of its population is comprised by Palestinians, but instead refuses leaving them to live under harsh conditions.Why are the Palestinians forced to live in squalor with little or no aid(other than an endless supply of funds and brainwashing for them kill themsevles as long as they take a few jews with them) from the Arab countries, mainly Jordan and Egypt?
3.They have no other choice, they are not even welcomed in Egypt, or Jordan.In short...why do the Palestinians live, and continue to live in a hole environment of "opression" and "ethnic cleansing"?
You are again deliberately trying to confuse the issue.No, I'm not trying to confuse the 2. In fact it was called Palestine after WW1.
You agreed with this point at the start of the debate...and I quote:
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I will agree that that region was given the name Palestine when it was assigned as a British Protectorate after WWI.
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You'd make a damn fine Palestinian, I tell you.
I said:
Palestine refers to the dirt.You are trying to confuse the Biblical Palestinian with the modern Palestinian...they are not the same.
Palestinian refers to the people occupying the dirt.
The region was renamed Palestine by a bunch of gringos sitting around a table in Paris. The occupants of what became known as Jordan only lived on the dirt called "Palestine" by a bunch of gringos in Paris for 6 years before its name was changed to Trans-Jordan. I seriously doubt the occupants ever considered themselves Palestinians.
my God people, SAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!
save what?
this crazy political rant.........move on
you are obviously young so I will give you some advice.
your brain and your have one thing in common.
you don't wear them out by using them every day.
tell me why I should care about this issue..........
uhhh...
9/11?
Homeland security?
Iraq?
November 2?
you don't think any of them are related to this issue?
i shouldn't tell you that you have to care about this issue. if you're too stupid to realize the implications that this situation has on america, then i'd rather you just stay the out of the thread.
i don't see the relevance of this question, but basicaly because isreal is a jewish state that has decided to allow jews to immigrate.1.Why is it that Jews from all over the world are welcomed to Israel, the smallest country in the Middle East, with open arms and given a chance at making a life, with a relatively high standard of living, for themselves?
because as we've mentoined above, nobody actually fights for them, they are just used as political pawns.2. Why are the Palestinians forced to live in squalor with little or no aid(other than an endless supply of funds and brainwashing for them kill themsevles as long as they take a few jews with them) from the Arab countries, mainly Jordan and Egypt?
however, neither jordan nor egypt is in a position to simply intergrate more refugees into their population. jordan already has more than it can handle.
when it's hard enough to make it from one slum to another in the occupied terrortories, how the do you expect them to make it anywhere else/ they can't exactly cross a border into one of the other countries. not that they should, they have a right to the land they are on.3.In short...why do the Palestinians live, and continue to live in a hole environment of "opression" and "ethnic cleansing"?
Are they forced to live under those conditions, in those locations, or do they choose to do so?
i'll answer this with a question of my own. do you think those mountain men militias have our best interests at heart/4.Why wasn't the PLO crying for a Palestinian homeland when Gaza and West Bank were occupied by Egypt and Jordan?
In fact the PLO was formed 3 years before Israel took those lands in 67.
Why? Who founded the PLO? What was it's purpose? and most importantly...
this is semantics based on verbage. the palestinians want the occupied lands that the jews have controlled since 1967, illegally.5.Why aren't the Palestinians trying to get land from Jordan since it was also in the region once known as Palestine?
this is such a re ed arguement. if i move into your house and kick you out, why don'tyou go ask somebody else with the same surname for their house because you have the same surname.
like I said in a post earlier in this thread..........I have too much going on in my life to worry about that. My wife, daughter, our health, motgage, bills, etc... I'm not gonna stop my life becuase theres knucklheads in another country that wanna hurt us. THeres alot of poeple here that can do the same. I'm not saying I'm oblivious to it all, BUT someone gave me some real good advice once. Don't live in the past because you can't change it, and don't live in the future becuase you cant predict it. Sorry buddy, thats' my take
i understand. you're apathetic like most americans. and instead of reading a thread that might help you become a tad bit more informed, you'd rather come in and tell us to 'chill out'.
for someone who is overwhelmed with things taking up his time, you find a lot of time to make meaningless posts.
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