Nun Excommunicated For Allowing Abortion

[Trainwreck2100]

her vagina

[easjer]

The church actually does not have a problem with this. That is what Directive 47 is about.



No one says it is unforgiveable- not even the Catholic Church.

I think maybe some people do not understand what the term excommunication means.

My comment wasn't directed at church policy - it was meant to agree with MrsMaalox and expand what she said in response to Viva Las Espeulas who implied that the woman whose pregnancy was terminated must have been "a heifer" to have heart problems at age 27.

My point was that some heart medications are contra-indicated for pregnancy and that switching medications or avoiding them because of danger to a pregnancy could result in heart failure or problems without the person in question being a heifer. I have no idea as to her general health/weight/lifestyle status, but I did have a very healthy, thin friend on beta-blockers for an inherited heart condition which she was unable to take during pregnancy and thus had to watch her body very carefully for signs of problems.

I understand what excommunication is. Perhaps it was not church policy or doctrine not to withhold forgiveness for those who assist in obtaining or have an abortion, but I do know priests who have withheld such assurance of forgiveness. I have issues with that. And with what MM points out, which is that I don't understand excommunication for a woman who saved a life but not for pedophile priests.

Which is why I am not a practising catholic.

[tlongII]

Catholicism is a joke...but at least they have good schools.

[ploto]

So because the Church acted wrongly with regards to these priests, are they supposed to do the "wrong" thing again in all other cases- wrong obviously being with regards to what their own teachings are? And really the issue is not pertinent in this case unless this same bishop had any doings with these pedophile priests.

I abhor what happened with the pedophile priests, but you can't really make every argument against church policy be about that. You can't say- they let those priests off so they better let everyone else off, too.

I do know priests who have withheld such assurance of forgiveness.

Then, they are wrong.

[tlongII]

So because the Church acted wrongly with regards to these priests, are they supposed to do the "wrong" thing again in all other cases- wrong obviously being with regards to what their own teachings are? And really the issue is not pertinent in this case unless this same bishop had any doings with these pedophile priests.

I abhor what happened with the pedophile priests, but you can't really make every argument against church policy be about that. You can't say- they let those priests off so they better let everyone else off, too.


Then, they are wrong.

Their own teachings are wrong!

[Das Texan]

Umm...


There is actually more sexual abuse in Protestant churches than Catholic Churches.


Yet everyone wants to rail on the Catholics cause its the cool thing to do. I find it funny

[Das Texan]

Excommunication is such a messy term. The bishop is right in the ways of saying its an automatic excommunciation, what do you want him to say?

Its in canon law.

It was some other parts that he sorta went too far, but it is what it is.

Its not like she cant be forgiven in confession and all anyway.



edit: sorry i had misspoken before before actually referring to the actual code, like a re ed moron.

[Das Texan]

and besides on another step, the majority of cases never involved pedophilia.

Many were involved with sexual actions with people below the age of consent but thats not pedophilia.


But let the mass media rail on the Catholic Church and bring inaccurate facts. Awesome.