Jordan on the cover of 2k11 (thanks to CNYC3 for the heads up)

[TimDunkem]

Its sad. Just pass it to the paint an the defender backs off if you don't have the momentum! That also goes for doing layups from the baseline! Your defense puts their hands down to not block the shot, if you try to take the charge, the defender jumps out of the way so the person has a clear lane to the basket, at the midway through the 2nd qtr the losing team automatically gets the momentum to make the game close after the half, & the whoe taking out the loby where you can't see the persons DNF% sucks cuz s play unranked games an just quit as soon as you go on a run! Espcially if they got Kobe or LaBrick! I hope NBA Live 11 is better so I can go back to EA sports! 2K total control my ass! Dudes run in circles cuz they know 2k makes you lag on defense! I'm starting to play Skate 3 more than 2k!

This pisses me off to no end. It's the easiest way to score and you can't do anything about it. It's so easy, infact, most guys you play against online automatically drive baseline as if their brain is hard-wired to do so. This problem is made worse because the online community is made up of re s and they'll encourage it.

Unless you're playing offline with adjusted sliders, friends, or (even more rarely) real ballers, there is no way you're going to play a sim game.

[Booharv]

Wow, classless, as usual..

Do you have a link to support your accusations?..

That gambling killed Jordan's Dad rumor was something Sam Smith put in his second Jordan book actually. Even though there was no evidence whatsoever, and it was just some rumor that ended up being total conjecture Smith reported it in that book and its floated around as a baseless rumor ever since. As good and factual book as The Jordan Rules is for the most part its clear Jordan ed Smith's wife/mother/sister or something because just being rude to him in the locker room doesn't explain the massive case of hatering he's displayed towards Jordan.

Do you want to know the funniest part about that second Jordan book ( led The Second Coming)? It was released in 1995 before the 72-10 season and Smith spends the whole book talking about how Jordan's comeback is doomed to failure and how he's too selfish to adjust and then Jordan leads arguably the best team ever to a le and wins MVP and Finals MVP awards. Talk about a massive fail. That's not even the worst part. For the second edition, after the le, he addresses none even of his bull predictions and then just throws in a bunch of admittedly entertaining Dennis Rodman stories from the 72-10 season.

[MiamiHeat]

That was something Sam Smith put in his second Jordan book actually. Even though there was no evidence whatsoever, and it was just some rumor that ended up being total conjecture Smith reported it in that book and its floated around as a baseless rumor ever since. As good and factual book as The Jordan Rules is for the most part its clear Jordan ed Smith's wife/mother/sister or something because just being rude to him in the locker room doesn't explain the massive case of hatering he's displayed towards Jordan.

Do you want to know the funniest part about that second Jordan book ( led The Second Coming)? It was released in 1995 before the 72-10 season and Smith spends the whole book talking about how Jordan's comeback is doomed to failure and how he's too selfish to adjust and then Jordan leads arguably the best team ever to a le and wins MVP and Finals MVP awards. Talk about a massive fail. That's not even the worst part. For the second edition, after the le, he addresses none even of his bull predictions and then just throws in a bunch of admittedly entertaining Dennis Rodman stories from the 72-10 season.

wow, great post. didn't know that about the 2nd book.

This is just a case of the worst fan base in sports, the lakers.

they insult MJ with garbage because he wasn't a Laker, and then they prop up Kobe to he doesn't deserve.

then knowledgeable fans are FORCED to hate on kobe because he doesn't deserve that , and then laker fans cry foul.

it's the most re ed I've ever seen from a fan base.

I've seen Lakersground before, and the they post there is from the Twilight Zone. I've seen a guy make a thread saying MJ only won 6 rings because the compe ion in the 90's didn't want to win championships very badly, so MJ played in an easy era.

LOL

[cobbler]

Wow, classless, as usual..

Do you have a link to support your accusations?..

A simple search will show you many accusations at the time. It was all over the media. Geeeeeeez.

James Jordan was murdered on July 23 as he napped in his luxury car on the shoulder of a gravel road near Lumberton, N.C. (Jet, Aug. 30). Larry Martin Demery, 18, of Rowland, N.C., and Daniel Andre Green, 18, of Lumberton, were arrested and charged with murder. Some news reports speculated that Mr. Jordan's murder may be connected with Michael's gambling.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...=rbxcra.2.a.55

So again, it was widely rumored at the time but nothing came of it. No proof in other words. I don't find it a stretch to think such a scenario could be true though. MJ was an admitted gambleholic and had to remove himself from the game or face suspension. He admitted to gambling millions away. But again, there was no proof so well leave it at that. I can.

Which brings us to your rapist comments. Where is the proof? Why is it classes for me to bring up a widely circulated story on a one time basis yet you have no qualms about spewing your equally factless rapist comments daily?

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Booharv]

wow, great post. didn't know that about the 2nd book.

81 used copies of the second edition version (october 1996) available starting at .01 at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Second-Coming-.../dp/0061094552

If you read it like I did, basically you'll spend the whole time waiting for the post championship "bonus" chapter to get to the part where he eats crow and instead he tells some Dennis Rodman stories. Really, I can laugh now but it was a massive let down at the time. He even spends time bashing Jordan's supposedly poor leadership skills, and then pretends like nothing but crazy Dennis Rodman antics happened between the time he wrote the book and added the extra chapter.

[cobbler]

And the Laker fanbase laughs at all the Miami/Chris/Harlems as they hop from bandwagon to bandwagon in prayer that some team, any team, can accomplish what thier own could not.

[Booharv]

A simple search will show you many accusations at the time. It was all over the media. Geeeeeeez.

James Jordan was murdered on July 23 as he napped in his luxury car on the shoulder of a gravel road near Lumberton, N.C. (Jet, Aug. 30). Larry Martin Demery, 18, of Rowland, N.C., and Daniel Andre Green, 18, of Lumberton, were arrested and charged with murder. Some news reports speculated that Mr. Jordan's murder may be connected with Michael's gambling.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...=rbxcra.2.a.55

So again, it was widely rumored at the time but nothing came of it. No proof in other words. I don't find it a stretch to think such a scenario could be true though. MJ was an admitted gambleholic and had to remove himself from the game or face suspension. He admitted to gambling millions away. But again, there was no proof so well leave it at that. I can.

Which brings us to your rapist comments. Where is the proof? Why is it classes for me to bring up a widely circulated story on a one time basis yet you have no qualms about spewing your equally factless rapist comments daily?

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Wow, I guess I was wrong. I thought I was sure it came from that Smith book. Looks like it was disproved before the book even came out because from what I remember the two murderers had no connections to any kind of organized crime.

[monosylab1k]

So again, it was widely rumored at the time but nothing came of it. No proof in other words. I don't find it a stretch to think such a scenario could be true though.

So then you'd have no problem with the assertion that Magic Johnson is a sexual who got HIV from gay sex, right?

[MiamiHeat]

Wow, I guess I was wrong. I thought I was sure it came from that Smith book. Looks like it was disproved before the book even came out because from what I remember the two murderers had no connections to any kind of organized crime.

Everyone gambles every single day in Las Vegas. Lots of people gamble every sports game.

SpursTalk gambles on game results with signature bets.

Lakerfan gambled on the Lakers winning a ring, and if they don't - he will never post here again.

at trying to smear MJ with "gambling" as if it's this horrible thing

[Booharv]

"Demery said they had no idea who the driver was until they rifled through his possessions an hour or so later. "I believe we've killed Michael Jordan's daddy," Demery quoted Green as saying."

http://web.archive.org/web/200503181...her--19.3.html

I guess if you believe in the conspiracy you also believe the murderers are lying so whatever. But if they were hit men they hired the tiest hit men ever:

" According to testimony, Green and his accomplice, Larry Martin Demery, 20, drove around in Jordan's red Lexus for four days after the slaying, picking up dates, and used the dead man's cellular phone to call friends and relatives.

Green also made a video of himself dancing and rapping while wearing Jordan's jewelry -- a watch and two NBA rings given to him by his athlete son."

Larenz Tate should play one of these fools if they make a movie.

[cobbler]

So then you'd have no problem with the assertion that Magic Johnson is a sexual who got HIV from gay sex, right?

Apparently not grasping the sarcasm?

And I could care less how Magic got HIV. I did however care about his basketball prowess.

[Booharv]

Everyone gambles every single day in Las Vegas. Lots of people gamble every sports game.

SpursTalk gambles on game results with signature bets.

Lakerfan gambled on the Lakers winning a ring, and if they don't - he will never post here again.

at trying to smear MJ with "gambling" as if it's this horrible thing

Tbh I live in an area (Central Florida) in the 90s with WGN so I watched a ton of Bulls games because I couldn't get the Spurs in my area pre-League Pass, plus Jordan was fun to watch. It must not have been that big of a rumor because I never heard of it until I read that book, then I assumed Smith was the one who gave it legs/credibility. I'm guessing I probably never heard it because no main stream media news organization would circulate unsubstantiated like that, and the internet didn't exist to push garbage like that then.

[Venti Quattro]

Sweet. Jordan vs Kobe 1 on 1 games all night

[MiamiHeat]

It is when you don't pay up. MJ refused to pay up millions.

Oh man shut your anorexic malnutrition tapeworm-having overdose on Gregory Bahamian diet-drinking ass up.

show some proof

[florige]

I guess MJ lost a lot of $$$$ in Vegas, which led him to finally accept a videogame deal.

Either that, or the 2K team must have a picture of Jordan getting kinky with Richard Jefferson

What was the last game where he actually was in it? I remember he was in Inside Drive for the original X-Box.

[Medvedenko]

Actually, it's cool to see MJ in a vid game again. I'm pumped.

[tlongII]

I don't play video games, but I think it's cool. That MJ has remained commercially relevant for this long after he retired is amazing really.

[MiamiHeat]

I don't play video games, but I think it's cool. That MJ has remained commercially relevant for this long after he retired is amazing really.

it's just too bad these young kids nowadays don't spend the time to truly understand how great he was. it's not like the games aren't available to watch

The 18 year old of today was born in 1992.

That means they were 6 years old when MJ retired in 1998.

They don't know JACK!!!!!!!!!!

[Medvedenko]

it's just too bad these young kids nowadays don't spend the time to truly understand how great he was. it's not like the games aren't available to watch

The 18 year old of today was born in 1992.

That means they were 6 years old when MJ retired in 1998.

They don't know JACK!!!!!!!!!!

OMG....the kids these days....

I watched MJ's entire career and still believe that Kobe is a more talented player. WGAF really.

[dav4463]

Jordan was great, but so is Kobe, Duncan, Chamberlain, Dr.J, Bird, and a host of others. The gap isn't as big as Jordan thinks it is.....he does have quite an ego!

[Roddy Beaubois]

I watched MJ's entire career and still believe that Kobe is a more talented player. WGAF really.

Thats because you're a huge homer.

[Medvedenko]

Thats because you're a huge homer.

Affirmative, thanks for playing.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gobbler being Gobbler..

Your links don't show anything, that's my point..I obviously know about the Jordan "rumors" and I've read Sam Smith's book..my point is that you're comparing something that came out of baseless rumors..nobody has actually given proof to even make it debatable..

You're saying it's comparable to Kobe's situation, which I find extremely stupid..Kobe was in a room with a young woman, alone, where nobody could see either of them..he didn't have any security or anything outside of the room to listen in, he didn't have any entourage or anything..it was just the 2 of them..he made the stupid decision to cheat on his wife by ing this girl, also mixing in his strange sexual fetishes and then talking about all of this to the cops without a lawyer..it's certainly up for debate when it's a situation involving 2 people in which nobody else can offer any proof or corroborate a story..

My point here isn't about whether Kobe did it or not, it's about comparing it to a man's close family member dying and blaming him for it, based on baseless rumors that don't even offer anything to leave it up for debate..

You're just being yourself..we bait you really easily, you try to say something clever, but it always backfires on you..you put yourself in stupid situations by ending up admitting that you laugh at rape and whatever else..really insecure, it's the internet son..

[ezau]

Is there a patch to fix where the father gets killed over gambling debts?

No, but they do have something that will let the player rape a white ,video-game style

[cobbler]

Gobbler being Gobbler..

Your links don't show anything, that's my point..I obviously know about the Jordan "rumors" and I've read Sam Smith's book..my point is that you're comparing something that came out of baseless rumors..nobody has actually given proof to even make it debatable..

You're saying it's comparable to Kobe's situation, which I find extremely stupid..Kobe was in a room with a young woman, alone, where nobody could see either of them..he didn't have any security or anything outside of the room to listen in, he didn't have any entourage or anything..it was just the 2 of them..he made the stupid decision to cheat on his wife by ing this girl, also mixing in his strange sexual fetishes and then talking about all of this to the cops without a lawyer..it's certainly up for debate when it's a situation involving 2 people in which nobody else can offer any proof or corroborate a story..

My point here isn't about whether Kobe did it or not, it's about comparing it to a man's close family member dying and blaming him for it, based on baseless rumors that don't even offer anything to leave it up for debate..

You're just being yourself..we bait you really easily, you try to say something clever, but it always backfires on you..you put yourself in stupid situations by ending up admitting that you laugh at rape and whatever else..really insecure, it's the internet son..

What were they supposed to show? I simply showed that it was brought up at the time of his death. It was. You asked for a link, I provided it. My point was that you have no clue in either situation if the accusations of others were correct or not. You simply don't. You have NO PROOF what so ever that Kobe raped that girl just as I have no proof of the false accusations brought up about MJ's dad years ago. And yet on a daily basis you state that Kobe raped the girl as if its fact. It has nothing to do with if its debatable or not. It's with your dispensing your conjecture as fact. I certainly don't go around here and create and post anti MJ threads or threads about anyone else for that matter. I just use absurd analogies such as the above to parrallel your idiotic obsession with Kobe and point out the obvious.

And again, If you cannot differenciate between an off color joke, something used as part of a comedy, a paroday etc... and reality then so be it. I can.

Maybe someday can I pet your moral high horse? huh? huh? Pretty please?