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No.
That's why I asked.
Do you know the answer?
Do you know the answer to your own question?
No.
That's why I asked.
Do you know the answer?
Nope.
How about we secure the border so 9 month pregnant women can't come on over to have their child here?
I know, novel idea!
They are generally insecure. They are not sure of their ability to explain their opinions, they think they might be moving in the wrong direction of the topic and/or they think they might lose what ever cred they have gained over the years posting in the same forum.
How about we secure our border so that anyone coming over illegal can't. I know, crazy!
Exactly!
But I guess our time and taxes are better spent on passing and fighting through ultimately uncons utional legislation...
100% agree. we shouldn't be making people born in the us non citizens.
Because, and I know this may be difficult to understand, if incentive exists, there is no such thing as a secure border. "Secure border" is a catch phrase that exists so that simpletons who want an easy solution to a complex problem have something to rally around. Don't be fooled however, secure border ONLY exists as a phrase. Ask East Germany if anyone ever got through. people INVENTED stuff to escape. I know, crazy!
You mean we have technology good enough to track, image and lock on targets to within feets but we can't locate coyotes with groups of a dozen people moving around?
The comparison with East Germany is inane. The GDR was a dying regime that didn't have the economic resources nor technological resources we have. Not to mention that the wall came crumbling down 20 years ago. In technological terms, that's 3 or 4 lifetimes.
Ultimately, there always will be a 'human factor' you can't control. But if you reduce every day occurrences to a bare minimum, then those start to stand out. Unfortunately there's no political will to actually act on this, on either party.
A lock door only keeps the honest people honest. The problem is we don't even lock the goddamn door. Secure the borders, check anyones ID we want, punish people and businesses for helping these illegals. I know this may be hard to understand, if we do all this, not just one of them, they will stop coming over and we will run the ones here back home or to the immiigration office to become legal.
There isn't any goddam door.
Last edited by Winehole23; 06-16-2010 at 03:05 AM.
Is it still uncons utional if they only add a stipulation to the ammendment?
"Anyone born on US soil is granted natural birth citizenship, unless parent is not a citizen"
what's wrong with adding that? seems logical to me.
What is wrong with replacing an outdated amendment with a new amendment to stop something that's obviously cost us more than its helped?
This amendment is costing us a lot, too much. Look at California. Among the states with probably the largest amount of illegal aliens....and look at their financial situation now.
I fully support this bill, but there needs to be more done. In regards to employment.
We have to
1) Stop outsourcing
2) Stop the hiring of illegal immigrants
then watch capitalism work it's magic on it's own, adapt to the new and LEGAL system, and after the dust settles, we are better for it.
Actually I was trying to get someone to back up his contention.
I know that's something you could never do since you are generally insecure and not sure of your ability to explain your opinions. You think you might might be moving in the wrong direction of the topic and/or they think they might lose what ever cred--
--oh, that's right. You never had any.
Too bad you could never answer any questions. Merely ing about my doing it shows just how insecure and petty you are.
Post how much it is costing us.
Nothing wrong with it. It just needs to be done through a federal Cons utional amendment, not legislation.
I happily stand by my conjecture that illegal immigrants cost us more than contribute. No one has disproved it, so until further notice it stands. I have no problem changing my POV on the matter if information comes to light.
I'll leave the research to the pros. I've asked plenty of questions on this board outside of "troll-mode" and once in awhile I'll get someone that is kind enough to do the research or link me. Not my fault I'm not into giving intellectual handouts!!
4 million 'bridge babies" are born in the US every year just so the mothers/family get a free pass. We can deal with this without amending the cons ution. Let the babies continue to be US citizens. Then give the undo ented mother a choice...Let the baby stay in the US and give it up for adoption OR take your US citizen baby back to Mexico and raise him. Either way, the undo ented MOTHER ain't stayin in the US.
Option 2 is what happens in most cases, as far as I've heard. Mother goes back to Mexico with US child. Once child becomes 18 years old, he can request papers for the entire immediate family, and the immigration laws indicate that the US basically can't say no.
In a way, one single US kid can eventually legalize all 6 brothers, and also mom and dad.
Again, we're barking at the wrong tree here. Without seriously attempting to close the border, we're basically wasting time and money.
Police services, medical services, social handouts, stealing jobs by offering to work for a lower wage, etc.
Who said I was talking about you? Feeling insecure, again! This post is another example of you being petty, again.
I never answer your questions.
Don't be lame....Let me guess, you will tell me not to be lame, insecure and petty.
Don't feel hurt if I decide not to feed your troll anymore in this thread. Surprise, it gets boring after awhile.
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