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    Feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel

    Kind of like how the Dems feel bad the unemployed are being denied government benefits while they do little to help the economy for said unemployed persons.

    lol feelings

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    I thought the Republicans were behind ending Unemployment Benefits...

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    "ending Unemployment Benefits"

    they are. They voted $1.3T tax cuts for the super wealthy during dubya's Reign of Error, but can't find $100B for pitbull 's long-term unemployed Real Americans.
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    I heard Republicans hate baby kittens...

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    If you heard something bad, even horrible, about Repugs and conservatives, it's true until proven otherwise.

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    and you are the definition of a republican
    It's obvious you don't know the differences of not left leaning groups.

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    Shakedown! Slush fund! Redistribution of wealth!

    I'm sorry, BP, that you have to deal with people who's environment you just clobbered and for having to stop drilling just because a few people died on your money machine.

    That's not the America I remember. The America I remember was founded in 1776 by Ronald Reagan... and the communist manifesto wasn't its cons ution!

    I'm so mad! I may just hop on my Rascal Scooter and write a letter to my congressman.
    The problem is, most of us to the right agree BP is to blame. However, when you guys come up with BS about them, you expect us to defend that, or say we are in their corner. If you guys could just deal in the truth, then we could have agreements.

    Why is it wrong to point out that Obama and the left is being completely unfair about this? that in no way means we want to see BP let off the hook.

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    I thought the Republicans were behind ending Unemployment Benefits...
    They are. That's the point.


    The left gets to skullfcuk the economy (w/ the reps blah blah blah) and then cry about how bad they feel for the people when the reps won't just say "screw it" let's just keep dishing out this money while the whole place goes to . And the masses of Americants feeeeeel better knowing the left feeeeeeels for them

    Politicians bank on the concept that americants can't put 2 + 2 together until they are down to nothing and realize words of feelings don't really add up to action and reality.

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    I thought the Republicans were behind ending Unemployment Benefits...
    They are. That's the point.
    Not that I'm aware of.

    link please.
    The left gets to skullfcuk the economy and then cry about how bad they feel for the people when the reps won't just say "screw it" let's just keep dishing out this money while the whole place goes to . And the masses of Americants feeeeeel better knowing the left feeeeeeels for them
    Yep...

    Lib s will be libtrads.

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    "Not that I'm aware of."

    Poor Yorick, do you have Internet access?

    Congress will not be extending the 99ers', aka long-term unemployed, again because of the bogus fears about the (Dem) deficit. Several 100K families will be foreclosed on and very probably sucked into a permanent underclass due to no unemployment benefits. There aren't enough ty jobs in fast food or Wal-mart or fruit/veg/garbage-pickin to suck them all up.

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    Idiot.

    Not extending unemployment benefits is not the same as ending them.

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    The result is the same for the erstwhile beneficiary.

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    The result is the same for the erstwhile beneficiary.
    Unemployment compensation is not suppose to be an endless program. It's not a social spending program. It's an insurance with a limited payout time.

    What ever happened to Obama's promise of things getting better?

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    What ever happened to Obama's promise of things getting better?
    I'm not keeping score, hoss.

    Seems to me terminating assistance to the unemployed during a recession could be counterproductive economically and politically.

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    I'm not keeping score, hoss.

    Seems to me terminating assistance to the unemployed during a recession could be counterproductive economically and politically.
    Hard to say. Any productive citizen will definitely try harder for a job.

    I don't have all the answers of what to do during Obama's depression. I'll bet however, if the democrats will continue the bush tax Cuts and make them permanent, the economy seriously improve.

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    Hard to say. Any productive citizen will definitely try harder for a job.
    Lotta long term unemployed out there, Hoss. Lot of em ain't give up yet.

    Seems like It wouldn't hurt much to throw them a bone every now and then, only, a little birdie told me, it's a sin to feed losers in distress. It only encourages them to survive and reproduce.

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    I don't have all the answers of what to do during Obama's depression. I'll bet however, if the democrats will continue the bush tax Cuts and make them permanent, the economy seriously improve.
    Wild Cobra = wild guess?

    It'll take more than extending tax breaks for the superrich, to make the economy seriously improve. It didn't work for Bush, did it?

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    Wild Cobra = wild guess?

    It'll take more than extending tax breaks for the superrich, to make the economy seriously improve. It didn't work for Bush, did it?
    It doesn't do just that. At the end of the year, the 10% tax rate will expire and the lower wade earners will pay 15% marginal rates instead of 10%. the 25% becomes 28% again, etc, etc, all the way up.

    Everyone will be paying higher taxes for the 2011 tax year, and businesses have to plan for this.

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    The assumption that any politico really gives a damn about those whose livelihood has been erased by BP's negligence, arrogance, and stupidity needs to be re-evaluated.

    The only real shock is that a governing elite who had no qualms handing over $700 billion to Wall Street, financed by the Chinese and owed by the "little people" in this country would actually require one of their corporate masters to put any skin in the game. Though setting a concrete number for political res ution such as $20 billion is actually of benefit to BP.

    What I really want to know is what will we be celebrating on the Fourth of July? Allegedly, it will be the declaration of independence from the British crown and colonial-era corporations. Of course, that last party rarely gets any mention these days, especially from those erstwhile defenders of the Founding Fathers on the right.

    There is nothing conservative about being a toady for a large multinational. Sooner or later you idiots might figure it out.

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    There is nothing conservative about being a toady for a large multinational. Sooner or later you idiots might figure it out.
    The power of brands (to wit, rebranded conservatism) is strong. Stronger perhaps than memory. For that reason (among others), brands are maybe even stronger than our real history.

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    "Any productive citizen will definitely try harder for a job."

    WC sliming all long-term unemployed, many who were making $100K+, because a typically small percentage are scammers,while ignoring there are 5 or 6 job seekers for every job. Unemployed 50+ years old, mortgage + kids in college, are particularly hard hit, house lost and kids drop out of college.

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    "Any productive citizen will definitely try harder for a job."

    WC sliming all long-term unemployed, many who were making $100K+, because a typically small percentage are scammers,while ignoring there are 5 or 6 job seekers for every job. Unemployed 50+ years old, mortgage + kids in college, are particularly hard hit, house lost and kids drop out of college.
    Do you have enough comprehension to realize that someone who had a $100k and in unemployed has probably already lost a mortgaged home? The spending and bills they are accustomed too can not be supported on unemployment benefits.

    I was averaging $114k annual before I was laid off in 2002. I was never a big credit person, and due to an obvious divorce on it's way from the past, I didn't buy a home when I could have. I was lucky. I only had car payments of $197.68 monthly for my new 2000 Z28, almost paid off, rent, and utilities. I put $19k down and financed almost $7k over 3 years just to establish credit, because I was a credit ghost. If I hadn't been laid off, I would have bought a house. Maybe in the near future, but I still need to save. Went though all my savings when I was laid off.

    People need to live within their means. I Sometimes life throws a serious curveball that cannot be stopped, but life does go on. When I bought that Z28, I could have paid cash. I had just sold $36k in stocks. I simply planned to get good credit.

    I wonder how many of you understand how taxes eat up money that's not quite in the "rich" class. Try living in the 31% federal marginal tax rate. See if that doesn't piss you off losing almost half your income between state and federal taxation, social security, etc.
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    well off people on welfare have been eating up the savings, liquidating their investments, trying to bridge to the next job that doesn't come, living off the other spouse's perhaps much lower income.

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    The power of brands (to wit, rebranded conservatism) is strong. Stronger perhaps than memory. For that reason (among others), brands are maybe even stronger than our real history.
    This country is afflicted with a permanent case of corporate deconstructionism.

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