Hey, Mel, I got my assholes confused, how's come we're at loggerheads again?
Scola and one of Battier or Ariza would just be the main guys. Hence the sign and trade "packages". Jordan Hill, rights to Sergio Llull (who Colangelo likes) and the NY Knicks picks could also be included (as well as expiring contracts of Jeffries, Andersen, etc.).
I wouldn't give up both Knicks 1st round picks in a trade for Amare. Probably just the 2011 one. Throw in a Rockets first round pick though.
I'm not saying that your scenario wouldn't work - it's just that it goes against all of the reports that I have read thus far (which admittedly likely all stem from a single report). And just because it technically works and I'm sure Toronto would be okay with it - I'm still puzzled why you think Bosh (who apparently has already ruled out going to Houston) or Stoudamire would agree to it when they have to opportunity to get the same money from other teams AND have the opportunity to pair with LeBron or DWade as well.
How will Bosh get the same money from Chicago and especially Miami? Especially when Toronto is not interested in Beasley and Noah won't be traded away from Chicago?
IMHO, if it came down to it Toronto would take whatever pieces (including Beasley) they could muster so they don't lose Bosh for nothing - but the way that Colangelo has been throwing money around the past two offseasons makes me honestly question his thinking anyways.
Besides, it's not as if Toronto has the upper hand in this decision anyways because I'm guessing that Bosh would forgo the extra money that he would gain in a S&T if it meant playing with LeBron and/or DWade as opposed to what would be left on the Rockets' roster. In other words, Bosh holds basically all of the cards in this deal.
BTW, it sounds as if Amar'e cannot be included in a S&T any longer with Phoenix's recent contract agreements.
I don't know why Raptors would do this, I think they are in rebuilding mode now?
But it's been stated time and time again that Bosh wants that extra year. And Toronto DOES have leverage, because of that. Houston is the only team willing to give Toronto what they want and what Bosh wants. Chicago doesn't want to give up Noah (and with new reports, Colangelo doesn't want Deng). Toronto is also not interested in Beasley.
And what would be left on the Rockets roster if a trade like Scola + Battier + NY Picks + Hill + Jeffries + rights to Sergio Llull?
Brooks/Lowry
Martin/Taylor
Ariza/Budinger
Bosh/Patterson/Anderson
Yao/Brad Miller (he's pretty much going to sign)/Hayes
I'd roll with that lineup, especially that bench (aside from Miller, they are young, athletic, and quick). And who knows, maybe the Rockets can throw in cash at Toronto for a Battier buy out, and move Budinger back up to the backup 2.
Valid points, but as I stated earlier - I think that Bosh has the leverage in spite of the exclusive nature to Toronto's ability to add a sixth year due to his opportunity to play with LeBron and/or DWade. I think he would forgo that extra money and IMHO, he only made those statements about wanting the extra year to see what Toronto would be willing to do with one of the teams that HE wants to go to. I believe that Toronto will be the first to blink in this game of chicken, because they have the most to lose. We'll have to wait it out to see what happens.But it's been stated time and time again that Bosh wants that extra year. And Toronto DOES have leverage, because of that. Houston is the only team willing to give Toronto what they want and what Bosh wants. Chicago doesn't want to give up Noah (and with new reports, Colangelo doesn't want Deng). Toronto is also not interested in Beasley.
And what would be left on the Rockets roster if a trade like Scola + Battier + NY Picks + Hill + Jeffries + rights to Sergio Llull?
Brooks/Lowry
Martin/Taylor
Ariza/Budinger
Bosh/Patterson/Anderson
Yao/Brad Miller (he's pretty much going to sign)/Hayes
I'd roll with that lineup, especially that bench (aside from Miller, they are young, athletic, and quick). And who knows, maybe the Rockets can throw in cash at Toronto for a Battier buy out, and move Budinger back up to the backup 2.
BTW, I didn't mean any disrespect to your team's lineup (because it does have a great deal of youth/athleticism) and I have a great deal of respect for your FO and coaching staff. I just think it's common sense that he would choose the opportunity to play with LeBron and DWade over virtually any other roster in the NBA.
You're alright with me, Cubby. Seems like you may have been a bit peeved that I publicized your broken vow.
No need for the Amare scenarios any more. Sarver saw to that.
Scola isn't as glamorous as Amar'e, but there's a distinct possibility that the Suns would be better with him and Ariza. They'd be crazy not to take this, if offered.
It's all moot now for Phoenix, because they can no longer offer Amar'e in a Max deal via S&T with their new commitments to Frye and Warrick.
Plus Amare would never agree to sign with Houston.
Bosh to Houston seems to be gaining momentum...
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by GhostRaider2007 on Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:43 pm
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As everyone knows, I reported last week on my morning drive show on Fox Sports Radio that LeBron James would join Dwayne Wade in Miami and take Chris Bosh with him to join the Heat. At the moment, that is still very possible, but there’s been a potentially huge monkey wrench thrown into the equation — with (understandable) greed on the part of Bosh being the main culprit.
So listen up. Here’s the breakdown:
All along, Pat Riley’s plan as President of the Heat was to convince Wade to take a paycut and offer all three (Wade, LeBron and Bosh) deals averaging approximately $15.7 mil….with opt-outs after three years. But since Bosh wants the max at all cost (and he’s trying to get it in a sign-and-trade deal with Houston), it changed the game for everyone. Especially Miami and New York.
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