Do you guys consider Suarez a cheater for the handball?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

He played within the rules and got the suspension he deserved, BUT anyone think they should introduce a 'penalty goal' rule ? For example, in Rugby, if you blatantly do something 'dirty' to stop a certain try, then the ref will award a try anyway.

What if they just awarded a goal if it is a 'deliberate' handball on the goal line? (and no, not like the Kewell Handball, that was not deliberate )

A penalty kick in the box is not a given, where as that was a certain goal if Suarez hadn't used his hands.

[resistanze]

He played within the rules and got the suspension he deserved, BUT anyone think they should introduce a 'penalty goal' rule ? For example, in Rugby, if you blatantly do something 'dirty' to stop a certain try, then the ref will award a try anyway.

What if they just awarded a goal if it is a 'deliberate' handball on the goal line? (and no, not like the Kewell Handball, that was not deliberate )

A penalty kick in the box is not a given, where as that was a certain goal if Suarez hadn't used his hands.

One thing I'll say is that it's VERY unfair that Suarez and Kewell's handball offenses are treated the exact same.

Kewell's hand blocked a goal, but it was pretty much unintentional. He was given a red card and a penalty. Suarez INTENTIONALLY volleyed a ball out of the goal with his hands, and got the same penalty. I don't believe the two should be treated the same. I doubt a 'goaltending' rule would work out so well, but he should be punished for a longer period of time.

[Ozzy]

He did what the rules allow and he got punished for it by the rules.

Just for reference: Tevez scored a goal when he knew he was offside and nobody is considering him a cheater ...

If Suarez did the same thing in, for example, 60th minute of the match nobody would be debating this today ...

[Capt Bringdown]

The rules are weak. Cheating is rewarded in soccer, that's why it's an inferior game.
It should be like a goaltending call in basketball.
No need for a penalty kick, the ball would have gone in, fair and square.

[urunobili]

lol Capt Soredown? u mad? u don't know a ing bit about Football so a recommendation for you... stay away from posting on here if you don't want to get owned u sore ing loser

It shouldn't have even came to that play u it was a non existent foul created by the refs and TWO ing offsides. The hand just brought ing justice you ing idiot.

[NRHector]

!!!! in Basketball Lebron walks when he goes for a layup and he gets rewarded with 2 points and a foul, is illegal and he does it anyway.

Suarez knew it was illegal to do that. He reacted took a chance and it worked to his team advantage, Suarez is not a cheater I guess he's more like a hero.

[Capt Bringdown]

lol Capt Soredown? u mad? u don't know a ing bit about Football so a recommendation for you... stay away from posting on here if you don't want to get owned u sore ing loser

It seems you're the one who's had an emotional meltdown. How old are you, twelve? I'll post anywhere I want, thank you, and for your childish temper-tantrum name calling, Welcome to my ignore list!

[urunobili]

It seems you're the one who's had an emotional meltdown. How old are you, twelve? I'll post anywhere I want, thank you, and for your childish temper-tantrum name calling, Welcome to my ignore list!

you started it by using the word "cheating"... I won't be able to sleep because a newcomer puts me on his/her ignore list

[lefty]

Its not the 1st time a player does that


All of sudden, people make a big deal out of it


Give me a ing break

[nkdlunch]

I had predicted Ghana to go through. Of course they deserved to and should have. After seeing the Suarez hand ball, which is much more than a mere hand ball. Dude blocks the ball like a goal keeper, with both hands.


yes it is cheating IMO.

[urunobili]

I had predicted Ghana to go through. Of course they deserved to and should have. After seeing the Suarez hand ball, which is much more than a mere hand ball. Dude blocks the ball like a goal keeper, with both hands.


yes it is cheating IMO.

not Football knowledgeable American with a not Football knowledgeable post

[nkdlunch]

not Football knowledgeable American with a not Football knowledgeable post

english mofo, do you speak it?

[SevenX]

It seems you're the one who's had an emotional meltdown. How old are you, twelve? I'll post anywhere I want, thank you, and for your childish temper-tantrum name calling, Welcome to my ignore list!

The next Namlook!!

[ffadicted]

Welcome to my ignore list!

lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

if the handball is clearly intentional..u award the team a goal not a penalty shot cause happens ....offender gets red carded.

then again i dunno why they dont use cameras...cause they dont wanna show replays of divers? or exposing phony refs?

[rascal]

Not in the least bit.

You never concede a goal, TD, basket, etc. because you never know what will happen on the PS, PK, next play, FT line, etc.

Ghana has no one to blame but themselves. Bury the PK and this is nothing but maybe a blip in this WC.

They should not have had to bury a penalty kick if this cheat didn't cross the line. Only goal tenders are allowed to use their hands so yes he cheated when he intentionally stopped the goal with his hands. He crossed the lines of the game. The penalty is not strict enough.

The goal should have been allowed and he should have been banned for life from all future World Cup games. That will put a stop quickly to this sort of play.

[rascal]

Its not the 1st time a player does that


All of sudden, people make a big deal out of it


Give me a ing break

It is a big deal. It directly resulted in changing the outcome of the game.

[rascal]

He did what the rules allow and he got punished for it by the rules.

Just for reference: Tevez scored a goal when he knew he was offside and nobody is considering him a cheater ...

If Suarez did the same thing in, for example, 60th minute of the match nobody would be debating this today ...

The rules do not allow what he did. The penalty is too lenient for the play.

[rascal]

One thing I'll say is that it's VERY unfair that Suarez and Kewell's handball offenses are treated the exact same.

Kewell's hand blocked a goal, but it was pretty much unintentional. He was given a red card and a penalty. Suarez INTENTIONALLY volleyed a ball out of the goal with his hands, and got the same penalty. I don't believe the two should be treated the same. I doubt a 'goaltending' rule would work out so well, but he should be punished for a longer period of time.

Agree. An intentional block should bring a lifetime ban.

[rascal]

The rules are weak. Cheating is rewarded in soccer, that's why it's an inferior game.
It should be like a goaltending call in basketball.
No need for a penalty kick, the ball would have gone in, fair and square.

Agree. The goal should have been awarded.

I dont agree that cheating is rewarded in soccer but the penalty for cheating is too lenient. Just award the goal and throw the player out and fewer players will try it. It is an easy fix.

[sonic21]

Why are the men that cheat with famous handballs always in blue? The color's cursed I tell you.

Even though it was cheating, and he pain the rightful penalty for it, It's still genius.

He has nothing to lose, if he doesn't handball it it's in, game over, they're out.

[Johnny RIngo]

In basketball, do you consider a guy that stops a fast break with a foul a cheater? I don't.

+1

The player was penalized and Ghana was awarded a penalty. There's nothing more you can do in that situation. This isn't basketball where you can just give out goaltendings.

[Johnny RIngo]

Even though it was cheating, and he pain the rightful penalty for it, It's still genius.

He has nothing to lose, if he doesn't handball it it's in, game over, they're out.

Exactly. I remember a moment during one of my little brother's soccer games where the GK came out of the box and there was only one defender left to protect the goal. The opposing team hit a long shot and the lone defender tried to head the ball away but couldn't reach high enough to stop the ball. Everyone in the crowd felt he should have used his hands to stop the ball in that situation. By the rationale of this thread, most the spectators that day might as well be deemed cheaters.

[urunobili]

english mofo, do you speak it?

Racist American being racist... no upsets there...

and BTW I do speak English among other 3 languages and most likely I speak it better than you and your family that probably isn't American anyway

[nkdlunch]

Racist American being racist... no upsets there...

and BTW I do speak English among other 3 languages and most likely I speak it better than you and your family that probably isn't American anyway

racist? LOL

you realize your great grandparents were killin indians for fun right?