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    Raptors are tired of Bosh using social media, and, in additon, he is making a do entary on his free agency and traveling around with a camera crew. Raptors seem pretty content just to let him walk.

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    At least the Spurs are throwing their hats in the ring. I suppose that's the least they can do. can't wait for all of this crap to settle already. As soon as Bosh, James and Wade sign to whatever team they choose, the rest of the league can get back to business.

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    and that is why they are always going to suck

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    Hasn't Bosh said that he wants to be the main option, THE MAN on his team? He wouldn't exactly be that in San Antonio.

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    I'd be amazed if the Spurs offer was actually 'real'. If Bosh comes West then Houston surely makes the most sense for him.

    I think the reason the Spurs are rumoured to have interest here (and in a lot of other situatons) is that RC & co are more than willing to let other GMs use them as leverage to drive the price up & gain better deals from clubs that really do have interest. It serves them well for Toronto to win out of any Bosh S&T.

    i.e Houston have to pony up more if the Spurs are 'supposedly' offering Parker, Blair & a 1st rounder for Bosh.

    This whole Bosh saga is intriging, everyone thought James would dictate things but if turns out to be Bosh, and hence Colangelo who's playing it tough.

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    Hasn't Bosh said that he wants to be the main option, THE MAN on his team? He wouldn't exactly be that in San Antonio.
    You don't think that this would be similar to the situation we were in when the Spurs drafted Duncan? Duncan would basically be the veteran mentor to Bosh that Robinson was to him. It's all moot anyways, because this isn't happening.

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    Hasn't Bosh said that he wants to be the main option, THE MAN on his team? He wouldn't exactly be that in San Antonio.
    If Parker were traded for Bosh (whatever the other pieces are), Bosh would definitely be the #1 option on offense. Tim has been willing to not be the focal point of the offense for a while, and Ginobili doesn't whine about touches. Not only would he be "the man" (at least on offense), he would be on a contending team, have the chance to be mentored by Duncan and Pop, and get his money too.

    The Spurs should try and do this IMO; Parker's not a lock to be here past this season, and locking up Bosh for 6 years through most of his prime would at the very least keep the Spurs relevant.

    Edit: There's no reason that Toronto would just let Bosh walk rather than take Parker; Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing; even Colangelo knows that.

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    Hasn't Bosh said that he wants to be the main option, THE MAN on his team? He wouldn't exactly be that in San Antonio.
    Yes. That is why he is probably going to sign whereever DWade or LeBron sign.

    Think, man.

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    Edit: There's no reason that Toronto would just let Bosh walk rather than take Parker; Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing; even Colangelo knows that.
    Of course there are and they've been discussed endlessly for more than a year.

    From yesterday's Parker for Bosh thread:

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...5&postcount=11

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    Of course there are and they've been discussed endlessly for more than a year.

    From yesterday's Parker for Bosh thread:

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...5&postcount=11
    I suppose the biggest assumption I made is that Tony would be willing to sign an extension (as part of the terms of the trade).

    Also, Parker + McDyess + all 4 non-guaranteed players gets within 125% of Bosh + Calderon...would that change Toronto's mind? They get to offload a bad contract this time. That plus a Parker extension (the weakest link to this trade, of course) might be enough to get the deal done.

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    I don't think so. They're apparently not interested in any of the packages proposed so far. If he goes to a team with cap space, they'll get a giant trade exception. A giant TE is better than some pu pu platter of spare parts that some capped out team wants to offload on Toronto.
    Uh, perhaps I'm not following properly (which is always possible), but you're going to need to explain to me how Toronto gets a trade exception if Bosh signs with another team as a free agent. The only way Toronto gets anything in this is if Bosh wants to go to the team and there's something useful that the Raps can use, right? I agree that there are certain situations where nothing is preferable, but Bosh is in the driver's seat, not the Raps.

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    Uh, perhaps I'm not following properly (which is always possible), but you're going to need to explain to me how Toronto gets a trade exception if Bosh signs with another team as a free agent. The only way Toronto gets anything in this is if Bosh wants to go to the team and there's something useful that the Raps can use, right? I agree that there are certain situations where nothing is preferable, but Bosh is in the driver's seat, not the Raps.
    If Bosh chooses to go to a team with cap space, instead of signing him outright, they can arrange a sign and trade where the Raptors sign him, then trade him for a huge trade exception (the team with cap space absorbs his salary without giving up anything in return). Bosh would want this to happen, since it gets him a 6th year on the contract and about $4 million more over the first 5 years.

    And you are correct, Bosh is in the drivers seat.

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    It was already turned down.

    Lets not have 30 pages of every trade scenario possible to get bosh here

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    If Bosh chooses to go to a team with cap space, instead of signing him outright, they can arrange a sign and trade where the Raptors sign him, then trade him for a huge trade exception (the team with cap space absorbs his salary without giving up anything in return). Bosh would want this to happen, since it gets him a 6th year on the contract and about $4 million more over the first 5 years.

    And you are correct, Bosh is in the drivers seat.
    Ah, okay. Thank you.

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    It was already turned down.

    Lets not have 30 pages of every trade scenario possible to get bosh here
    Yeah because you're forced to come in here and read every single one of them. Even if you don't, you'll have to move your mouse cursor an extra quarter of an inch down to click on the next thread. What drudgery.

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    Saw this espn article by Adande (can't give link from this computer...blocked at work).

    Spurs offered to do a sign n trade deal for Bosh, only to be turned down.
    Offered crap I am sure.

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    I wonder what the Spurs offered.


    Tony Parker?

    George Hill and Splitter's rights?


    Those are the only two packages I think Toronto would consider. I think the Spurs should absolutely get Bosh if they can, even if they have to trade Parker.
    I am sure they did not offer Parker.

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    Even though there is a limited chance for the Spurs to get Bosh, the fact that they made an offer surely means quite a few people around here that have scoffed at the notion need to clean the egg from their face.
    Until the Spurs land Bosh there is no egg on anyones face who said the spurs would not get Bosh.

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    Yeah because you're forced to come in here and read every single one of them. Even if you don't, you'll have to move your mouse cursor an extra quarter of an inch down to click on the next thread. What drudgery.
    Just getting impatient with this off season. SOMETHING HAPPEN ALREADY

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    Until the Spurs land Bosh there is no egg on anyones face who said the spurs would not get Bosh.
    When people talked about it earlier they were trashed by some as it was an impossibility. Obviously, if an offer was made it is not an impossibility.

    I was wondering who would be the first to reply. Maybe somebody needs a napkin.

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    If I'm Toronto, I'd want Hill, Manu, Blair, and Splitter's rights.

    Any spurs fan still interested? I hope not.

    Those 4 will play some of the biggest roles in our teams quest for a championship this year.

    As for Parker, any team trading for him would have to be guaranteed that he's gonna re-up with them. This most certainly has been pointed out by numerous posters already, sorry I'm late to the party.

    I don't think Tony is looking to move to Toronto with Eva's career being in LA and her roots being in south Texas...even if it is for max money.

    Other teams will come calling for Tony and dangling max money when the time is right. We'll see what he chooses to do.

    Til then, get Splitter signed please.

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    If I'm Toronto, I'd want Hill, Manu, Blair, and Splitter's rights.

    lolololol....

    Who do you think Chris Bosh is? Michael Jordan in his prime with access to the fountain of youth and a lifetime contract?

    The Raptors are in no position to be demanding of anything anyway.

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    Parker bonner mason or the four expiring contracts is what I would give for him.

    The twin towers all over again

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    lolololol....

    Who do you think Chris Bosh is? Michael Jordan in his prime with access to the fountain of youth and a lifetime contract?

    The Raptors are in no position to be demanding of anything anyway.

    I was just taking a glance from Toronto's point of view.

    Our Spurs are obviously not foolish enough to offer that much.

    But as we can see, the Raptors are not foolish enough to trade a max player for bench fodder either.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...gentbuzz070310
    The Raptors are still open-minded about the possibility of a sign-and-trade with their All-Star and have done extensive research on possible scenarios with each potential trade partner. The Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets and Los Angeles Lakers are among the teams in the luxury tax who have interest in a possible sign-and-trade for Bosh.

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