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  1. #26
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    If you have 3 players that good, it doesn't really matter what you surround them with as long as they can play some D. Get some defensive players, [/u]a couple assholes that can stand behind the 3pt line all day and you're set.[/U]
    Easier said than done friend, especially if you include the former and the latter.

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    'Ultimate Big 3 but not much else' isn't as appealing when you already have 3-4 proven contenders.

    And even with Wade Bosh and Lebron, Miami's going to need more than just a few standard role players to pull ahead of the pack. Lakers had more, Celtics had more, Spurs had more. I dont see who Miami aquires that gives them anything near that level of depth, let alone what those three teams had.
    Lakers actually have a decent bench? If there's something the Lakers have taught us is that you can get away with a ty bench as long as you've got a supremely talented starting five.

    And what's with that proven contenders bull ? Isn't this the same reasoning when Allen, Pierce, and KG all went to Boston in 08? Everybody said that these players haven't won their entire career and guess what, they ran away with a ring 11 months later.

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    Easier said than done friend, especially if you include the former and the latter.
    So Brown, Vuja , and DJ Mbenga are all-world beaters now?

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    The ESPN cap expert said the starting salary of each would be $16.6, I believe. Well if that's accurate, that's $49.8 for the three of them. Chalmers makes $847,000. So that's about $50.6 committed to those four players with a cap roughly at $58 million. If the Heat are able to trade Beasley without taking a salary in return, the Heat actually would have a little bit of money to play with to try to get a decent big man, better than Joel Anthony. They might even have enough to offer Haywood something like $7-9 million a year. But, they'd probably be better off trying to split whatever money they do have left and trying to get at least two above minimum contract caliber players, perhaps trying to get both Ray Felton and Travis Outlaw for example for depth. Big men free agents are pretty thin anyway beyond the top free agent big men, so might as well try to get a couple quality perimeter guys for depth.

    With the cap set at $58, if the Heat can ship off Beasley for cap space, the Heat might actually be able to add a couple of decent players so that everything is not on those three guys and they're surrounded by all scrubs or over-the-hill players trying to ride coattails.
    The Miami Heat currently have the following players signed:

    Michael Beasley
    Mario Chalmers

    This gives them a cap space of $51 million. Signing Wade and Bosh at the Max (30% of salary cap which is $17.4 million) will give them a cap space of about $16.2 Million. Meaning they're about $1.2 million short. So in order to sign Lebron they have to trade away Michael Beasley and free up some cap space.

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    At the end of the day, I'd rather have these three in one team knowing for a fact that they didn't need a ing collusion and a lot of David Stern's help to pull it off.

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    Lakers actually have a decent bench? If there's something the Lakers have taught us is that you can get away with a ty bench as long as you've got a supremely talented starting five.

    And what's with that proven contenders bull ? Isn't this the same reasoning when Allen, Pierce, and KG all went to Boston in 08? Everybody said that these players haven't won their entire career and guess what, they ran away with a ring 11 months later.
    God dang, you make it sound like I called them quality players. The bench was decent, and on occasion brought us over the hump, especially in home games. This was in addition to our stellar starting five\. If we honest to God had a terrible bench it might have cost us one more more championships.

    As for Boston, anyone who thinks their depth ended at the big 3 is a fool.

    So Brown, Vuja , and DJ Mbenga are all-world beaters now?
    *Odom, Bynum, and Fisher.

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    btw why nobody counts dexter pittman as an asset for the heat. I've seen a couple of college games with him and this kid is a beast. He may not run great but against strong big like bynum/dwight and with a 1-2 year of workout (he PROVED he can work out, 388-> 300 is not easy) he can be a very decent situational C. I think he's one of the steals of the draft.

    Plus look at his freakin measurements:
    "Dexter Pittman is quite a unique physical specimen in his own right, measuring 6-9 ˝ without shoes, with a 7-6 wingspan. He also has the biggest hands in this draft (a new stat) at 10.5 inches.

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    ty role players tend to look a lot better when they're playing with 3 superstars.

    see Leon Powe

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    btw why nobody counts dexter pittman as an asset for the heat. I've seen a couple of college games with him and this kid is a beast. He may not run great but against strong big like bynum/dwight and with a 1-2 year of workout (he PROVED he can work out, 388-> 300 is not easy) he can be a very decent situational C. I think he's one of the steals of the draft.

    Plus look at his freakin measurements:
    "Dexter Pittman is quite a unique physical specimen in his own right, measuring 6-9 ˝ without shoes, with a 7-6 wingspan. He also has the biggest hands in this draft (a new stat) at 10.5 inches.
    It's because Dexter Pittman quite literally can't go 3 minutes on a basketball court before he's completely gassed.

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    With these 3 (assuming all 3 with max contracts) and Beasly they would already be near the salary cap no?

    Is there a thread or calculations made?

    Could they sign a MLE player besides them?

    I don't see how they could create a solid roster with 3 max paid players...
    Heat are under the cap no MLE for them.

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    ty role players tend to look a lot better when they're playing with 3 superstars.

    see Leon Powe
    Bingo hence my point that it doesn't really matter who you surround them with as long as they can play some D. With MJ you had Bill Cartwright, BJ armstrong, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, etc look like allstars when without him and Pippen they were scrubs.

    When your man is worried about 3 other all stars, you'll get easy looks.

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    I still think the Laker will beat them. After their first year together, the MLE will come into play and then I will see them as the favorite for years to come. Their worst year will be the first year, although it will be a great year in comparison to every other team.

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    I never saw that one coming. A post-Gasol trade Lakerfan picking them to beat the superteam.

    So how's Game 7 gonna go down? Kobe shooting 25% and Derek Fisher bailing him out?


    Resorting to calling me a bandwagon fan despite me living in the Los Angeles area for 21 years and being a member of Club Lakers since we had Smush Parker. Good though... I forgot Spurs talk join date is when everyone became a fan of basketball.

    re .


    Edit: To answer your question. Yes, if it goes down like that again, it would be fan- ing-tastic.



    Resorting to knocking Kobe. I'm a Laker fan, re , not a Kobe rider. I was a laker fan before Kobe, I'll be a Laker fan after Kobe. That doesn't work on me.


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    Potentially stupid question, but is there any chance that at least Wade and Bosh would accept less than max deals to give their team the cap space it needs to find serviceable role players? Wade has said many, many times that this isn't about money and that he'd take less to help the team win. I can't see Bosh signing for more than Wade, so it seems plausible to me that they both would take sub-max deals.

    Also, what are the odds that Shaq comes to play with two of his former star teammates (Bron and Wade) to get a fifth ring and stick it to Kobe?

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    i saw 1.8mil last night on espn while including the new cap price range

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    Resorting to calling me a bandwagon fan despite me living in the Los Angeles area for 21 years and being a member of Club Lakers since we had Smush Parker. Good though... I forgot Spurs talk join date is when everyone became a fan of basketball.

    re .


    Edit: To answer your question. Yes, if it goes down like that again, it would be fan- ing-tastic.



    Resorting to knocking Kobe. I'm a Laker fan, re , not a Kobe rider. I was a laker fan before Kobe, I'll be a Laker fan after Kobe. That doesn't work on me.


    Join Date 07-18-09

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    I have to admit: They do look sick together in those Heat unis. I've always liked Wade as a person and would like to see him play on a contender again. I generally hate it when stars are sequestered for most of their career on ty teams (e.g., KG in Minnesota pre-Boston, Baron Davis, Chris Paul, LeBron if he doesn't leave Cleveland, etc.).

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    STFU and know your place in the basketball world.

    You've been the Lakers and Spurs for the entirety of the NBA and you will continue to be.

    BTW, hows your current team doing?

    Awwwww, too soon?

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    sup 7/18

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    Sup?

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    Lol...the Heat should check to see if Bowen might be available for the vet min...

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    lmao @ Lebron always having one less ring then wade
    never crossed my mind... funny

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    tbh LeBron's got big shoes to fill wearing that Heat #6


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