u mad ?
Not even slightly. I'm excited!
This is the best thing to happen to the Lakers. Just when Buss was thinking he could reduce payroll and the team is getting fat on the back to back, they now realize there will be some compe ion and will step it up.
It will only make #17 next year all the sweeter!!!!
It won't only be me...NBA stars believe that now. If you've heard the comments from guys like Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, Chris Webber, Kevin McHale, etc. you would see that a move like this will tarnish LeBron's legacy a little bit. Those guys have played on the big stage and they know a load more about it than you and me.
If they do run a dynasty LeBron does not go down as better than Bird or Dr. J because those guys stayed put and created championship teams.
And man you're just a hater. I can't believe you even talked about Wade being the #2 SG you've lost all credibility.
Why should I get so annoyed by you when we all know you make no sense majority of the time? I really shouldn't get annoyed but I do.
Sig bet lets in do it
LeBron is the main man on any team other than maybe the Lakers.. despite being arguably a better player than Kobe... generally best player = main man... i dont care if he went to Wade's team. LeBron is the alpha dog on that team.
GOAT has spoke. Debate over period.
I'm not mad about anything. You know what you just made me realize something. I think LeBron's whole situation actually helps me in proving that Kobe is the better player out of the two so you have a point.
Even if I'm mad I shouldn't be. This will only further justify Kobe and his team's legacy.
Get to the finals first and were on. You know the Lakers will be there.
He's not better than Kobe.
I'll sig bet you about the Heat making Finals!
You know there are teams ready to challenge the Heat next year right?
Lebron automatically defaulted himself to a lower status then every superstar in the league that is the unquestionable #1 option.
Doesn't matter what stats he puts up.
The guy lives in a fantasy reality and has absolutely no idea about the consequences of his actions and what a hit his legacy has taken and will take. He could have easily joined the Bulls and their talented young squad with a great defensive minded coach in Thibbs. But he didn't want the pressure, he didn't want it because he's Scottie Pippen 2.0. Maybe now he can stop calling himself the king and remove that silly chosen one tattoo off his back.
Thank you DAC!
NBA stars and former stars are saying this too. Look it up guys. And I feel like they might know a thing or two about the NBA and legacies.
Maybe he's values team accomplishments and championships more than individual legacy. After all, the former is more important in a team sport like basketball than the latter.
Wouldn't expect a Kobe fan to understand that, though. Your hero would sacrifice the good of team if it meant bolstering his personal legacy.
What's this obsession with "personal challenges" anyway? What the do you think this is? Golf? You can only have so much "personal" impact on team with 11 other guys who also affect the outcome of any given game.
But yeah, I agree. No more Chosen One or King hyperbole
What's alarming is how many Lebron apologists we have here on ST. Spur fan really has a hard-on for this Lebron fellow.
Do you really think a guy who put on an hour long special to announce his FA decision legitimately cares about anyone but himself? Are you this dumb?
Lebron joined Wade because he couldn't handle the pressure. It was a move made almost completely out of self-interest.
Good point, but I think it goes both ways.
As much as LBJ is giving up his individual success to have fun and win on this dream team, he is still an arrogant ass hole. He could have still went to this Heat team and informed the Cavs earlier b/c we all know damn well they had this planned.
So LBJ is unselfish and arrogant bag at the same time. You know why he's so arrogant? Because the media has been drooling over the kid since he was 14. You know thats exactly why him leaving for Wade's team is a problem then right? Since day 1 this guy was the heir, already better than Kobe, etc. etc. With that comes the expectations of carrying your team to victory. He ran away from that. And like I said before it was for both selfish and unselfish reasons.
I think it's because Spur fan understands the team concept more than Laker fan, who has been totally obsessed with the personal accomplishments of Kobe Bryant ever since he tried to take over in the '04 Finals.
If 02 Duncan had the chance to bring Shaq to the Spurs, he'd welcome him with open arms and express the desire to win as many les as possible, regardless if his "personal legacy" takes a hit. And no Spurs fan would begrudge him for deferring to Shaq. We'd be shining O'Brien after O'Brien while you gots cry about Duncan not "wanting to accept the challenge."
Okay, so in all likelihood, he's not going to challenge Jordan's legacy, but he went to a place where he thinks he can win the most les possible.
Explain to me how that's a bad thing.
No Spur fan just hates the Lakers with a blinding and obsessive passion.
They hate LA because we're winners. Because we've ousted you out of the playoffs so many times and crushed your repeat hopes time and time again. You hate us because we stole team of the decade from you. Because just when you thought we were done when Shaq left, we marched right back to the top and won two straight. Something your franchise still hasn't done.
Trust me, I know full well why you hate LA and root for anyone who has a snowball's chance in of beating them.
the ing legacy already god dammit . Its about the ing rings everything else if u end up winning who gives a flying . I swear if i have to hear another ing thing about legacy im in someone up
I'll help you out. Mr. third Person (AKA LeBron James) said it himself. "I want to do whats best for LeBron James."
Again, learn to read.
I never stated Lebron is some bastion of unselfishness. I said what I think he values more from - wait for it - a "personal" standpoint. He places more importance on winning les by any means necessary, even if that means forsaking a great deal of his individual legacy. And that is an act totally motivated by self-interest, because it what he values more as an individual.
Understand now?
Congratulations!! That's the 1,000,000,000,000th time that argument has been used on the internet in the last 24 hours!!
No dammit thats not what we're saying. Look its different if Shaq came to Duncan. Duncan's legacy wouldn't take a hit because Shaq CAME TO Duncan. If Wade and Bosh went to Cleveland then no one would be bashing LeBron at all. I guarantee it. And if they were bashing LeBron it would only be because he had an hour special because he's an arrogant jack ass.
And Flo Rida we have to talk about legacy. With all the praise and " sucking" LBJ has gotten from the media, comes expectations as well. Those expectations included possibly being considered the GOAT. Running for help hurt those chances.
1 championship for the struggling city of Cleveland means more than 3 championships on the super team he ran to IMO.
Good players play for rings...Great players play for Legacy. Lebron meet Ring. Kobe meet Legacy.
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