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    I'm going to enjoy seeing Wade and Lebron take large dumps on the Lakers. I wonder if Kobe will guard either one of them or will he cop out and guard a scrub like Mario Chalmers to avoid getting lit up. Artest will have a meltdown guarding either player.

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    Kobe "6-24 in Game 7" Bryant has indeed gone back 2 back, but we have to give equal amounts of credit to The Big Spaniard, no?
    For sure. Kobe was the best player on the court for the first 6 games though and haters (not you) sometimes forget that.

    Yes he struggled from the floor in Game 7 but at least he did something in else in pulling down 15 boards.

    But it was a team effort. I thought Ron Artest was the best player in Game 7. Not only did he clean up a lot of bad shots and make 3's, but he did something more important, shut down Paul Pierce.

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    at ignoring kobe's HORRIBLE performances and overrated persona and just pointing to "rings" as a defense, cause the rings mean more than sucking ass and ballhogging, cause "winning is what matters"

    then in the same breath,

    ting on wade/bron/bosh who are about to get those "rings" by playing unselfish bball
    At ignoring him playing the best basketball in the 6 games before that.

  4. #29
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    Bynum is the future GOAT

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    And I can't wait for next season to start. Actually gonna watch more regular season games this year. Probably watched around 60-70% this past season.

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    at ignoring kobe's HORRIBLE performances and overrated persona and just pointing to "rings" as a defense, cause the rings mean more than sucking ass and ballhogging, cause "winning is what matters"

    then in the same breath,

    ting on wade/bron/bosh who are about to get those "rings" by playing unselfish bball
    What state do you live in MH?

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    I'm excited about the East this year. Chicago upgraded. Knicks upgraded?? Miami formed a strong nucleus for the next 6 years. Orlando, Boston and Atlanta are essentially the same good teams they were last year.

    No one is counting out the Heat. I just hope they get some good players. Beasley would have been decent coming off the bench for Bosh, but I guess the finances didn't work out? Big Z wouldn't be a bad starting 5. Juwan maybe for 6th man. When Z needs a breather you can run small. So with Miller on board, is Flash gonna run point? If the Heat DO sign Fisher and Miller is backup SG for Wade, that's starting to look pretty mean.

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    No team shouldn't with the kind of money the Lakers throw around and the way they hi-jack other team's talent. Not to mention the attraction of playing and living in "beautiful" Los Angeles. Shaq went to that circus when Orlando essentially matched LA's offer because he wanted to cut terrible rap albums and make ty movies.
    uhhh ok... thanks for agreeing!

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    What's hilarious is how excited Spur fan is that ANOTHER team has a chance to beat LA. They've given up on their own team ever performing that feat again so they tie their hopes to the next best team like the little bandwagoners they are.

    Spur fans truly are the biggest bandwagoning fanbase.

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    For sure. Kobe was the best player on the court for the first 6 games though and haters (not you) sometimes forget that.

    Yes he struggled from the floor in Game 7 but at least he did something in else in pulling down 15 boards.

    But it was a team effort. I thought Ron Artest was the best player in Game 7. Not only did he clean up a lot of bad shots and make 3's, but he did something more important, shut down Paul Pierce.
    No he wasn't.

    Gasol and Ray Allen were both better than him in Game 2, a game the Lakers lost.

    Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom were just as good as 10-29 Kobe in Game 3.

    Gasol and Paul Pierce were just as good as Kobe in Game 5. Kobe had 7 in' TOs in that game and was horrible down the stretch.

    He had a very underwhelming series and essentially won the Finals MVP by default. Gasol would literally have to play otherworldly for the always media conscious NBA to not award it to the most popular player in the league.

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    What's hilarious is how excited Spur fan is that ANOTHER team has a chance to beat LA. They've given up on their own team ever performing that feat again so they tie their hopes to the next best team like the little bandwagoners they are.

    Spur fans truly are the biggest bandwagoning fanbase.
    They just resigned Matt Bonner , they're in good shape.

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    No he wasn't.

    Gasol and Ray Allen were both better than him in Game 2, a game the Lakers lost.

    Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom were just as good as 10-29 Kobe in Game 3.

    Gasol and Paul Pierce were just as good as Kobe in Game 5. Kobe had 7 in' TOs in that game and was horrible down the stretch.

    He had a very underwhelming series and essentially won the Finals MVP by default. Gasol would literally have to play otherworldly for the always media conscious NBA to not award it to the most popular player in the league.
    Kobe had one bad game in the entire series. The rest he either played his averages or better.

    He didn't win by default. He won MVP because over the course of the series he was consistently the best player on the floor.

    God, Spur fan just can't stop hating. Kobe has won two les without Shaq. Give it up already.

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    What's hilarious is how excited Spur fan is that ANOTHER team has a chance to beat LA. They've given up on their own team ever performing that feat again so they tie their hopes to the next best team like the little bandwagoners they are.

    Spur fans truly are the biggest bandwagoning fanbase.
    You really do have reading comprehension issues, don't you?

    Laker fan says, "Spur fan explaining how Laker fan seems happier since the deal went down in Miami means that Spur fan is hopping aboard the Heat Bandwagon!"

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    @Midnight Pulp's profile pic:

    I remember those years. Sedale, Elden, Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Doug Christie, Ceballos.. those were some good times.

    Anybody who thinks Phil Jackson is not a good coach doesn't realize that Shaq and Kobe were first round exits before him. And on paper they had a better team.

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    Kobe had one bad game in the entire series. The rest he either played his averages or better.

    He didn't win by default. He won MVP because over the course of the series he was consistently the best player on the floor.

    God, Spur fan just can't stop hating. Kobe has won two les without Shaq. Give it up already.
    So 10-29 is on his "averages?"

    7 TOs in on his "averages?"




    Dumb Laker fan, only knows how to read the PPG portion of the box score.

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    at ignoring kobe's HORRIBLE performances and overrated persona and just pointing to "rings" as a defense, cause the rings mean more than sucking ass and ballhogging, cause "winning is what matters"

    then in the same breath,

    ting on wade/bron/bosh who are about to get those "rings" by playing unselfish bball
    Is that something like bashing Kobe for his first 3 les because he was 1b to Shaqs 1a and saying his accomplishments are tainted because he wasn't the main man on his team and then applauding wade/bron/bosh for abandoning their main man status?

    According to all you haters logic... if the heat win any rings, their value to the personal legacies of each player is greatly diminished.

    ...or let me guess, that's all changed now that the argument hurts you.

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    I'm going to enjoy seeing Wade and Lebron take large dumps on the Lakers. I wonder if Kobe will guard either one of them or will he cop out and guard a scrub like Mario Chalmers to avoid getting lit up. Artest will have a meltdown guarding either player.
    Artest has a proven record against Lebron. Try again.

    Kobe has always relished playing against DWade.

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    What state do you live in MH?
    A state of confusion and ignorance.

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    cobbler, did Chris Richards pay?

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    Do you remember Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson discussing whether or not Kobe should win the Finals MVP even if Boston won?

    Well they discussed that because Kobe performed the best throughout the series. He didn't just win it because of his name.

    I think they know a little bit more about basketball than you do.

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    No he wasn't.

    Gasol and Ray Allen were both better than him in Game 2, a game the Lakers lost.

    Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom were just as good as 10-29 Kobe in Game 3.

    Gasol and Paul Pierce were just as good as Kobe in Game 5. Kobe had 7 in' TOs in that game and was horrible down the stretch.

    He had a very underwhelming series and essentially won the Finals MVP by default. Gasol would literally have to play otherworldly for the always media conscious NBA to not award it to the most popular player in the league.
    So you are saying MVP's are subjective and not indicative of what really happens in the games? I can't argue against that. So I guess that tosses out all the MVP's for player vs player arguments.

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    Artest has a proven record against Lebron. Try again.

    Kobe has always relished playing against DWade.
    Hmm? I thought Artest had trouble with explosive guys like LeBron but he could outmuscle the power small forwards like Melo and Paul Pierce.

    I wish that wasn't the case, but thats what I've seen from Artest.

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    cobbler, did Chris Richards pay?
    Hasn't shown his face since game 7 ended. Pussy Welcher. I even had it set up that he didn't have to pay me and could honor the bet by making a contrubution to Kori to help with expenses and I would even match it.

    I matched it anyway, but ChrisR has long disappeared. To be hones't, it's worth the 100 bucks to not have to read his ridiculous rants.

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    So you are saying MVP's are subjective and not indicative of what really happens in the games? I can't argue against that. So I guess that tosses out all the MVP's for player vs player arguments.
    Nice try. But that's not what I'm saying at all.

    I referred to a specific example, in this case, what it would take for Gasol to win the Finals MVP instead of Kobe, who is without a doubt the most popular player in the world.

    And the same would've been true for Pippen, but Pippen never really made it close with any of his Finals performances.

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    Hmm? I thought Artest had trouble with explosive guys like LeBron but he could outmuscle the power small forwards like Melo and Paul Pierce.

    I wish that wasn't the case, but thats what I've seen from Artest.
    I could be wrong... but i remember seeing some stats where LBJ had performed below his averages against Artest. I'm too lazy at the moment to research it. It's one of the reasons the Lakers brought him in. To deal with the bigger bodies in Melo, Pierce, and Bron that Ariza had trouble with.

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