and Fabbs, the spurs were definitely not 'in' on any of these shady moves...in fact the opposite- they were THE main factor (and to a lesser degree the Pistons as well) for the league being in a position where they felt forced to 'take steps' in the first place. almost every dubious move perpetrated by 'the powers that be' since around 2006 were done with one goal in mind-to make things 'difficult' for the Spurs and the Pistons(and their style of basketball in general) to continue to win, while at the same time helping certain big money franchises/rivalries/glamour markets to rise to prominence once again.
this is 100% indisputable fact.
IMO, the higher valued teams always get the calls in close series. It's subliminal. The refs can't help but know who are the Lakers vs anyone else is. Unfortunately for the Celtics finished second this year.
The next diva team will be the Heat. I can't wait for the controversy as the MAGI ac ulate an average of 3 fouls a game. I expect a replay of 'Remember the ans', where coaches jump onto the court and demand the refs call the games as they see them. Not who was playing.
Van Gundy was right. The hand IS part of the ball. It's not a foul if you hit their hand when going for a block or steal. Wrist & arm is a foul, the hand holding the ball is NOT a foul.
Are you nuts?
Not when an opponent is shooting.
Now after Matty Bonner and Jefferson are rewarded for their playoff play with both getting new 4 year contracts and at probably about 36 million bucks, the Lakers sign Matt Barnes for 1.8 mil per year for two years.
What's that they say in legal terms, "Your witness".
The floor is now yours.
You know we won a le in 2007 right?
It's not a foul if the hand is still in contact with the ball.
Not when an opponent is shooting.
Completely disagree. Is this was true why not teach all defenders to simply hack at the shooters hand?
We need word for word rulebook.
Yes, perhaps 2007 was in exchange for the traitorous sell out.
Go back to the op and compare where we and the NBA were in Summer 2005 compared to now summer 2010.
With a completely stacked roster going forward we got one le in 5 years while the *Champs* are a burqua hat wearing got with 21 to 5 freethrows in one quarter who got Pao Gasol for Kwame Brown. Now we just gave Bonehead/ 50 million dollars over 4 years while Matt Barnes will outproduce the two of them combined for 3.6 million total.
The smell of rigged abounds.
Your word usage is fantastic. You "completely disagree" with something that most casual fans are aware of. And then you call teaching this legitimate rule "hacking". So I'll bite... they do teach you to "hack" at the shooter's hand if you're pursuing a layup. It's just not the easiest thing to do because, y'know, not everybody playing basketball has that much defensive skill. That's why a lot of defenders are out of position, miss the block, and hit wrist or forearm instead, at which point the whistle blows because, y'know... that's a foul.
So STFU until you can.
Statistically?
No... he won't.
Will you now?
http://www.nba.com/features/misunder...es_051128.html
Incidental Contact: The mere fact that contact occurs does not mean a foul has been committed. Players are allowed to contact other players when reaching for a loose ball, or when performing normal offensive and defensive movements. The hand is considered “ part of the ball” when it is in contact with the ball and contact with a players hand when it is in contact with the ball is not a foul.
Uh, Kori's post has word for word from the rulebook. If you don't know the hand is part of the ball, then my guess is that you've never played basketball in your life. Go to a basketball court at an elementary school and you'll hear the kids say that.
LOL Fabbs... "Lewie Scola"
Notice this is under "Incidental Contact".
While shooting?
Gasols hack was hardly "incidental".
I'll see what i can find.
Originally Posted by Fabbs
Now we just gave Bonehead/ 50 million dollars over 4 years while Matt Barnes will outproduce the two of them combined for 3.6 million total.
meh probably true that Bonner will hit enough non pressure up-by-20 YMCA regular season treys to beef up his points per game.Statistically?
No... he won't.
Ditto Soft , he'll have the occasional 18/9 game that he is capable of doing regularly.
Combined, their stats will outdo Barnes yeah probably.
But for those of us who are not Boxscore Bettys we know and saw what BonBon and did in the playoffs.
in·ci·den·tal -adj 1. happening or likely to happen in an unplanned or subordinate conjunction with something else. 3. likely to happen or naturally appertaining.
Are you somehow suggesting that someone can shoot the ball without their hand being in contact with the ball? Touching someone's hand while they're shooting the ball is considered "Incidental", so it's not a foul.
If it meets the criteria above, that someone was shooting, then it is by-rule "incidental contact".
Good luck. Since you can't seem to admit when you're completely wrong, I'd wager that you couldn't find your ass with both hands.
That is unintentionally the funniest thing Fabbs has ever posted.
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