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hopefully Jones takes the LLE
Our financial situation means we can probably afford the rest of the MLE, and $7m first-year-salary to resign RJ, without straying over the luxury tax.
Using the LLE after that would put us over.
Possibly we could get one vet minimum in and sneak under.
hopefully Jones takes the LLE
Even if the Spurs do move on Jones, they still need to resign RJ.
sign him
spurs have a le to win this year
they can practice learn the system and next year
I like James Jones (not as much as mountainballer).
He is a solid player who fit very well in a role player mold for Spurs (good shooter and sounded defense). The only FAs that I woudl take ahead of him are Josh Howard and Rasual Butler.
IIRC, his injuries were more bad luck than him breaking down.
Last edited by Bruno; 07-13-2010 at 05:11 PM.
, there the same age (couple of months apart)...
James Jones would be a solid signing. For a cheap option, he has a rather high ceiling because injuries and erratic playing time destroyed his stock over the last two seasons. I like that he's long, has a high release point and usually gives good effort on defense.
I'd like Raja Bell better but James Jones and Rasual Butler were the next two obvious choices. Out of the three, Jones has the most potential ... in both directions.
That last line in particular makes me think he's more than likely signing with the Spurs after Bell spurns them..."The source said Jones would sign for more than the minimum if a deal can be finalized with San Antonio."
From everything I know about him, he's a Spur through and through. Obviously, his appeal comes in his three-point shooting and length/versatility defensively. But, unlike Bell, he's not the type of guy you put on Bryant, Wade, etc.
The Spurs still don't have anyone to guard those types (maybe Hairston, but if you add Jones, in addition to Anderson, Hairston will be buried; probably inactive regularly), which is why I prefer Bell.
timvp, Butler makes no sense. Ideally, the Spurs need plus three-point shooting and defense for this role, but at minimum, at least one of the two has to be well above average. With Jones, you get excellent three-point shooting and at least average defense. With Bell, you get excellent three-point shooting and above average defense. With Butler, you get mediocre-fairly good three-point shooting and mediocre defense. Not good enough.
[QUOTE=TD 21;4507096]That last line in particular makes me think he's more than likely signing with the Spurs after Bell spurns them..."The source said Jones would sign for more than the minimum if a deal can be finalized with San Antonio."
From everything I know about him, he's a Spur through and through. Obviously, his appeal comes in his three-point shooting and length/versatility defensively. But, unlike Bell, he's not the type of guy you put on Bryant, Wade, etc.
The Spurs still don't have anyone to guard those types (maybe Hairston, but if you add Jones, in addition to Anderson, Hairston will be buried; probably inactive regularly), which is why I prefer Bell.[/QUOTE]
So you woul rather have bell so that Hairston will get more PT? Really, Hairston has shown that much that now you would plan your FA around him?
-Very good shooter..
-Great length..
-Injury prone..
-Was a disappointment in Miami more so due to his contract, not his play..
-Below average 1 on 1 defender, good team defender though..
-Not noticeably quick or athletic..
-He has very little ability to create his own offense..
-Not exactly a standout player at anything other than shooting..
I don't mind him for the right price, but I'm not really a fan of any of the available FAs..
dude, this is the james jones thread...
Damn, Jones measured out as 6-foot-8.75 with a wingspan of 7-foot-2.5. For those who wanted size at the wing, he fits the bill.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...gentbuzz071310
Free-agent buzz: Lakers, Spurs chase Bell
By Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports 6 hours, 40 minutes ago
The Los Angeles Lakers have long targeted Raja Bell(notes) in free agency, and now one of his biggest boosters within the two-time defending champions – Kobe Bryant(notes) – will be working to close a deal with an old, fierce rival, league sources told Yahoo! Sports
Bell is traveling to Los Angeles later this week for a visit that sources said is expected to include an audience with Bryant. After helping to keep Derek Fisher(notes) with a three-year, $10.5 million contract on Monday, the Lakers have one available spot in their rotation that comes down to Bell and Shannon Brown(notes).
The Miami Heat are tying to recruit Bell, but it appears the Lakers and San Antonio Spurs could be the two top remaining suitors for Bell.
The Lakers have a little less than $1.8 million of their midlevel exception left to pay Bell after agreeing to a four-year, $16 million contract with point guard Steve Blake(notes).
After agreeing with 2007 first-round pick Tiago Splitter(notes) on a three-year, $10.9 million contract, the Spurs have nearly $2.4 million left in the midlevel exception to offer Bell.
The Spurs had Bell in training camp in 2001, and always regretted cutting him before the season. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich helped persuade Larry Brown to sign Bell later that season with the Philadelphia 76ers and Bell helped guard Kobe Bryant in the NBA Finals.
Bell, 33, was dealt to the Golden State Warriors in November as part of the Stephen Jackson(notes) trade with the Charlotte Bobcats. Bell missed all but six games last season.
Bell famously dropped Bryant with a clothesline foul in the 2006 playoffs, but the two developed a mutual respect. Bell was ejected and suspended a game for the foul and complained about Bryant’s tactics in the postgame news conference.
“It’s a personal thing when someone continually hits you in the face,” Bell said at the time. “That’s the only way I can put it. I’ve been playing as hard as I can play. I’ve been trying to do a good job, I’ve been trying to be what my team needs me to be, and I continually get hit in my face. There doesn’t seem to be any boundaries or limitations for what he’s allowed to do to me, and at that point, I kind of lost my cool and I took it into my own hands.”
Bell made a league-high 205 3-pointers in the 2006-07 season for the Suns under coach Mike D’Antoni, but his role changed the next season under Terry Porter and he was eventually shipped to Charlotte. Bell averaged 13 points in 45 games for the Bobcats in the 2008-09 season.
Any named "Sweet James Jones" is cool with me.(RIP Pimp C)
He's shown no sign of doing it when there's a vet to play, no matter how crappy said vet is.
James jones raja bell call it an offseason....
Spurs are taking a HARD look at a LONG three who could be a good SIX man.
Feeling very juvenile today.
[quote=yavozerb;4507111]No, you misunderstood me. I meant that Hairston may be the only current Spur capable of adequately guarding Bryant, Wade, etc., but if the Spurs were to sign Jones in addition to Anderson, that would be irrelevant, because Hairston would be buried. Whereas if they were to sign Bell, they'd have someone in the rotation who could at least do an adequate job on Bryant, Wade, etc.
If he can defend and shoot the 3 everyone should be happy.
Hopefully the Spurs used their interest in other SFs to drive down RJ's price. $7 million/year still seems too high IMO for RJ considering how he worked out for us last year.
I still think that spurs priority should be to find an agreement with RJ
I wouldn't mind this signing. I wonder if they try and sign him with the LLE AND still try for Raja with the rest of the MLE. Now that woudl be sweet if they pulled that off.
Btw, if the Spurs sign Jones, I guess I will forgive him for almost giving me a heartattack in December of '07. Then, when he was with Portland, he got tangled up with Duncan and almost ended TD's career. I still remember Finley coming over and giving him a shove while Duncan was writhing in pain on the floor.
Is Jones still relevant ? I remember him being very mediocre after he left the Pacers. He did nothing for the Suns or Blazers or Heat for that matter.
James Jones
6'8"
220
6 yrs Pro
Career Season Avgs:
6.4 ppg
2.4 rebs
0.4 stl
0.4 blk
40% FG%
39% 3PG%
86% FT
Has only played in 134 out of a possible 246 regular season games over the past 3 seasons.
yeah I just checked his draft express report as well, plus he his 220 pounds, I thought he was more around 202 but that might help against players like Odom, Dirk, etc
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