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    Does Ron Paul believe in term limits?
    You didn't know?

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    No.

    What are his views on congressional term limits?

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    No.

    What are his views on congressional term limits?
    He has been trying to pass term limit legislation since the 70's.

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=10943
    You normally wouldn't expect a 10-term Congressman to be a big term limits supporter but, as this year's primary campaign made clear, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) isn't a typical Congressman.

    I ran into the Congressman on the campaign trail in Fort Lauderdale last year where we chatted briefly about the prospects for Congressional term limits. Yes, he's still on board, he assured me. He also inquired about Paul Jacob, the former executive director of U.S. Term Limits.

    Rep. Paul most recently reiterated his support for term limits publically in his Dec. 23, 2007, appearance on Meet the Press, where interviewer Tim Russert grilled the Congressman for the alleged contradiction between his tenure and his support for limits on tenure.

    "I support term limits," Rep. Paul told Russert. But Rep. Paul pointed out that he does not and has never supported the idea of self-limiting, but only a term limit requirement on the entire Congress.

    "Matter of fact, some of the best people that I worked with, who were the most principled, came in on voluntary term limits," said Paul. "So some of the good people left." To get the ins utional benefits of term limits, it has to be applied to the whole body.

    So is this just political double-speak? Not in Rep. Paul's case. In his first stint in Congress (1976-1984), well before the term limits explosion of the early 1990s, he was the first representative in modern history to submit a term limits bill for Congress. He voted for all the term limits bills during the Contract with America era and continues to publically support the idea.

    He says term limits are a first step, but insists that we must go further.

    "To restrict and reduce the power of in bency, we should address the sweeping powers that the federal government possesses," he wrote in a pro-term limits press release some years back. He also called for the abolition of the lucrative Congressional pension plan which he does not participate in.

    To sign the pe ion calling for Congressional term limits, see: www.termlimits.org.

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    10-term Congressman

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    we need smaller leaner gov with teeth.
    Yes. So rather than say we need to add regulations, you should talk about changing regulations in ways that do just that. Otherwise we get the wrong idea.

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    Yes. So rather than say we need to add regulations, you should talk about changing regulations in ways that do just that. Otherwise we get the wrong idea.
    Agreed

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    Yes, I believe in a strong national defense. Sorry you don't. I wonder how long this nation would have survived if we were passive in past wars.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but we took to Paul's passive strategy in the forties. Then 12/7 happened.
    As I recall, while Pearl Harbor was a dark day, we did pretty well in the end of that war.

    Being in a constant war stance didn't prevent 9/11, did it?

    Isolated attacks on us will occur, regardless of whether we are passive or active.

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    Isolated attacks on us will occur, regardless of whether we are passive or active.
    That is possible.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Right?

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    There's a reason he keeps coming back. There's a reason he refuses to take any congressional pension. There's a reason he keeps his medical practice operating to this day. There's a reason the cons uents keep voting him back. And there's a reason he cant get the job done: no support in Washington, and no support among the UNEDUCATED ELECTORATE who misconstrue the issues...something like your take on Ron Paul.

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    There's a reason he keeps coming back.
    Because he doesn't really believe in term limits.

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    That is possible.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Right?
    Agreed. That's why I'm for a more passive stance than we currently have. It would save us financially, and it would give us the moral high ground if attacked. As well, many captured terrorists have stated that they are against us because we are involved so much in the Middle East.

    I think our military is strong enough to the point where we could ramp it down considerably and still be the strongest military in the world by a good margin.

    I am ok with people feeling otherwise, though, and can see the other side. I just agree to disagree with you WC.

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    The OP is a testament to Ron Paul's long standing critique of the Fed. Worth the watch.

    So....bump!

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    tl;dw

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    when you develop an interest in the federal reserve you will. nice of you to stop by though.

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    I noticed you never explained what it was about.

    Thanks for showing how important it is.

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    Actually I did. Re: Liberty To You and Yours. was the cue you missed.

    The Libertarian Party's take on The Fed, circa 1980's, and consistent with the current take. Ron is a little less "restrained" here when he talks about the Fed Reserve Act and the role of an international banking cartel in our troubles.

    Or did you need me to hold your hand further?

    When you want some insight on the Fed, you'll go there. Thanks for shopping at Libertyville.

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    Oh yeah, and the OP. Duh.
    Ron Paul on our corrupt Federal Reserve, the Power structure of the United States, Sweet discussion of inflation and recession, the two party lie, and FEMA is GOING TO KICK YOUR ASS WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

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    Still not watching.

    lol FEMA death camps.

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