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    I like Barnes, but those projected numbers are too high.

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    If I had my way, I'd sign Matt Barnes and call it an off season. My lineups would be:

    C Duncan | Splitter
    PF McDyess | Blair | Bonner
    SF Barnes | Hairston | Gee
    SG Ginobili | Anderson | Neal
    PG Parker | Hill | Temple

    Basically Hairston & Gee would be jousting for minutes as the backup 3 and Temple, Neal, and Anderson would be in compe ion for a backup position.

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    I like Barnes, but those projected numbers are too high.
    Ok ...... got a little carried away there. I checked his stats last year and a more accurate projection: 8pts in a variety of ways (put backs, drives to the rim, 3pters, fast break dunks, etc), 5 reb, occasional steal/block, & hard nosed defense against the opposing teams' best wing.

    Sound better?

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    As an aside, I have a feeling Barnes would fair better playing mainly in the western conference, his numbers were even better in '08 when he played in Phoenix. He just doesn't seem like an eastern conference type of player.

    C'mon Pop, bring him back where he belongs!

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    If Temple is 6'6, then Gee is 6'8...at least that is what it looks like when they stand next to each other. I would guess that Temple is closer to 6'4 than 6'6

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    I think either Gee or Hairston will make the roster, but probably one of 'em will not, but may get sent to the Toros.

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    I think either Gee or Hairston will make the roster, but probably one of 'em will not, but may get sent to the Toros.
    I think Hairston's out of D league eligibility.

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    Matt Barnes isn't going to sign here. He has made it pretty clear he looking for more money than the Spurs have. I don't understand why anyone wants him anyway. He is an overrated defender, a streaky (to put it kindly) shooter and a total head.
    RC has already stated that they are looking to bring Jefferson back. If his options are the Spurs, Clippers and Cavaliers for similar money . . . he's probably coming back.
    If they sign anyone it will be a shooter. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.

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    I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.
    That would be a very bad development.

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    Matt Barnes isn't going to sign here. He has made it pretty clear he looking for more money than the Spurs have. I don't understand why anyone wants him anyway. He is an overrated defender, a streaky (to put it kindly) shooter and a total head.
    RC has already stated that they are looking to bring Jefferson back. If his options are the Spurs, Clippers and Cavaliers for similar money . . . he's probably coming back.
    If they sign anyone it will be a shooter. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison get the call at this point.
    Morrison stinks. Jefferson will likely not be coming back. Why would he want to play again for the Spurs when he can rejuvenate his career elsewhere? He is a bad fit the way they want to use him.

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    Morrison stinks. Jefferson will likely not be coming back. Why would he want to play again for the Spurs when he can rejuvenate his career elsewhere? He is a bad fit the way they want to use him.
    Because the spurs will probably the offer the highest contract..Not many teams still out there that can outbid the spurs for the likes of RJ..

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    Because the spurs will probably the offer the highest contract..Not many teams still out there that can outbid the spurs for the likes of RJ..
    Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

    He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.

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    Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

    He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.
    A game of chicken being played here.

    Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

    Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

    Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.

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    Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

    He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.
    I believe some of that is in play. At the same time, RJ is not a young pup, and this could easily be his last contract. While there's some pride involved, I'm not sure he's got that much wiggle room, especially with the uncertainty of the upcoming CBA.

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    Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

    He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.
    Quit making sense, already.

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    A game of chicken being played here.

    Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

    Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

    Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.
    I would call it anything but a sure thing that they "plan" on matching. At least I would hope so.

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    Jefferson wants out thats why he opted out. And the spurs are not in any hurry to outbid for Jefferson. I don't see jefferson coming back to the Spurs.

    He would be willing to take less money now to revive his career elsewhere because in the long run he can make more if he was on another team putting up better numbers than if he stays with the spurs.
    That's possible. He also may have thought that with all the teams freeing up cap space that he could get in on some of that money. But he's more likely to go to a bad team where he can get more shots and try to turn that into one last contract than he is to be lowballed by the Spurs, especially if they're going to try to get multiple years out of it.

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    That's possible. He also may have thought that with all the teams freeing up cap space that he could get in on some of that money. But he's more likely to go to a bad team where he can get more shots and try to turn that into one last contract than he is to be lowballed by the Spurs, especially if they're going to try to get multiple years out of it.
    Exactly. I see him ending up in NJ or NY at this point. And this game of chicken isn't gonna last too much longer. I get the feeling Matt Barnes might be getting a call from Pop fairly soonish.

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    You people just aren't paying attention to the facts.

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    You people just aren't paying attention to the facts.
    You're welcome to enlighten us.

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    If the Spurs have ing Hairston and Gee in thier regular rotation San Antonio is Doomed.
    Both of them in the regualr rotation would be a problem, but one of them playing 15-20 minutes a night would be great. How else do you expect them to develop?

    On the contrary. Pop loves the fact that the guy is 6'6", is versatile - meaning he can play and defend multiple positions. However, they like his size and moxie at the PG position. Besides, they absolutely must hedge themselves against injury. I see no reason that he wouldn't make the team.

    Besides all that, Pop has already proclaimed him as his "new favorite player".
    Temple should be a lock to be backup PG. He's already proven himself on an NBA level.
    Yup, we'll see some Temple next year, and given the way he played late last year I'm looking forward to it!

    If Hairston gets rotation minutes next year, I might cry.


    See below.

    What's with all of the Hairston hate on here lately? This message board was lighting up last year to get him extended minutes and even make him the starter. I think as time has gone by we've forgotten how much promise he's shown as a player, mostly because he only played in garbage time. He's a tenacious defender with a very quick first step and a pretty nice shot, in addition to being very young in his NBA career. He's still got loads of potential and IMHO he's only going to get better defensively.

    It's common knowledge around the Spurs fandom that we're looking for a perimeter stopper, there's no way that the Spurs organization isn't looking for the same thing. You can bet on the fact that there's at least a sliver of hope in the FO that Hairston can be that guy.

    I'm not saying that he's heads and shoulders above a good FA signing, but to hate on the team if he's part of th regular rotation is kind of ridiculous. I think that we'll see in the preseason that this kid is making strides as a great role player that can become part of the nucleus of a winning team.

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    To be honest, I wouldn't mind Morrison to be a rotation player if Richard Jefferson resigns. He can shoot the ball and that's what we need once we have a starter.

    C Splitter | McDyess
    PF Duncan | Blair | Bonner
    SF Jefferson | Morrison
    SG Ginobili | Anderson | Neal
    PG Parker | Hill

    That's an offseason you can't complain about. A team with the potential to be a contender. But you are going to need a little help from the players themselves. Expectations are somewhat high for Splitter. McDyess can actually take on less of a role and go into full clutch jump shot think Horry mode. We need an improvement from Blair with his jump shot but I think that he's worked on it with England over the summer am I right? And Jefferson needs to gel in with the team better, but I think now that he's used to us and knows the system, he'll be a better player. All we need for Morrison is to hit some shots and not be a complete liability on defense and then he'll be an upgrade over Bogans. Ginobili's got to be consistent this year and stay healthy, but last year he impressed me, of a player. The guy is an all star. James Anderson is up in the air, he doesn't have the expectations Splitter does, but I think he has ability to impress and raise some eyebrows when the season starts. Neal might not be as good, but could even be an upgrade over Garrett Temple and allow George Hill to go into full PG mode. Hill just needs to continue to improve his shot and work on his ball handling, quickness, and overall point abilities. But I'm confident he's done that. All we need from TP is to stay healhty. Listen sons, I foresee one of these in our near future (this year.)




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    You're welcome to enlighten us.
    I already mentioned this in another thread, but:

    Fact 1: Pop has been working with RJ already this off season. Why would he bother with a player who is going to leave via free agency?

    Fact 2: RJ is a free agent. If the Spurs believed there was someone better available why haven't they replaced Jefferson? The Spurs are free to sever ties with Jefferson, but have yet to do it.

    Fact 3: RC stated (during a televised summer league interview with Joel Myers) that the Spurs are working toward re-signing RJ.

    I don't know how much clearer it can be. Like it, or not.

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    A game of chicken being played here.

    Spurs waiting for an offer for Jefferson that they plan on matching.

    Jefferson hoping that the offer gets him more than the $15m he declined.

    Unfortunately, this gamesmanship is keeping the Spurs from bidding for other FA.
    I agree with the first three lines of this post (though if the offer is too high, I'd expect a sign and trade before I'd expect the Spurs to go into the luxury tax (again) for Richard Jefferson).

    On the last line, while I agree that the uncertainty may be stopping the Spurs from putting official offers on the table, which FA could they have gotten if they had been free to do so? To my recollection, pretty much every free agent they might have been interested in has gotten a larger contract than the Spurs could offer with their remaining MLE.

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    On the last line, while I agree that the uncertainty may be stopping the Spurs from putting official offers on the table, which FA could they have gotten if they had been free to do so? To my recollection, pretty much every free agent they might have been interested in has gotten a larger contract than the Spurs could offer with their remaining MLE.
    Though if the Spurs can know for certain that they aren't signing RJ, then they have the opportunity for a S&T and therefore a lot more flexibility.

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