Bruce Lee vs Anderson Silva

[CubanSucks]

Not really the same since both teams have an actual compe ion history and footage to measure by.

It's pointless to compare Bruce Lee to professional fighters because there's nothing really to compare. There's no footage of him fighting, unless you count movies. He didn't compete. He didn't have a fighting record. It's all the word of the people who were close to him and his students--and anybody who's ever trained a day martial arts in their lives knows that people tend to view their instructor as the baddest man who walks the earth.

I'm not saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a badass. His ideas revolutionized martial arts. But to confidently say that he could beat a guy who is the most dominant martials arts compe or in the world (and who outweighs him by 60 lbs or more) doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

This was the most annoying part of our argument. Eventually I just said, "well what about the fact that he's just flat out bigger and has reach?" Their annoying ing reply to that was the cliche, "yeah but dude, more mass just means he's that much slower"

[cornbread]

This was the most annoying part of our argument. Eventually I just said, "well what about the fact that he's just flat out bigger and has reach?" Their annoying ing reply to that was the cliche, "yeah but dude, more mass just means he's that much slower"

LOL, yeah because being slowed down mass is a problem that has plagued Silva's career.

[CubanSucks]

Please show me the footage of bruce lee hitting something that isn't standing still

And this was the funniest part of our argument. The whole time they wouldn't stop bringing up his infamous 'one inch punch'. So they youtube it and I'll admit I was getting nervous about how legit this was. HE PRACTICALLY ING PUSHES THE GUY AND OF COURSE HE FALLS BACK!

[BlackSwordsMan]

board dont hit back!

[cornbread]

Bruce skill level and technique is much more advanced that Van Damme and Chuck Norris. In fact Norris looks like an amateur compared to Bruce. I honestly think it's physically impossible to gain that level of technique without being able to truly fight. Could Bruce take a punch, we don't know because we don't have that footage, but Bruce actually competed in High School and was obviously good enough to open a few Martial Arts Studios to train other people.

When I look at the skill level of Bruce compared to World Professional Champs like Billy Blanks, Chuck Norris, and Van Damme, those guys look like amateurs to compare to Bruce.

"Lee appeared at the 1967 Long Beach International Karate Championships and performed various demonstrations, including the famous "unstoppable punch" against USKA world Karate champion Vic Moore.[30] Lee told Moore that he was going to throw a straight punch to the face, and all he had to do was to try and block it. Lee took several steps back and asked if Moore was ready, when Moore nodded in affirmation, Lee glided towards him until he was within striking range. He then threw a straight punch directly at Moore's face, and stopped before impact. In eight attempts, Moore failed to" block any of the punches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee

Lots of martial artists can make their technique look incredible in a non-combative situation. That doesn't necessarily always translate to an actual fight. Early NHB and vale tudo compe ions opened our eyes to that.

The difference between Bruce Lee and guys like Chuck Norris, Van Damme, Billy Blanks, Don "the Dragon" Wilson and Benny "the Jet" Uriquedez is that those guys left less up to question. They proved what they were capable of against real opponents and it's chronicled.

And I'm not a Bruce Lee hater. I'm a huge fan. I own his movies and I've read "Tao of Jeet Kune Do." I just think his place in fighting/martial arts history should be that of one of the most revolutionary and influential martists of all time--not the greatest fighter that ever lived.

[cornbread]

I'd rather see Benny the Jet against Silva. He would stand a good chance. Besides being a dominant kickboxer, he actually trained with Judo Gene Lebell (check out the hip toss at 2:08) so he had a Judo game and some ground game. Word is that Benny the Jet accepted the Gracie Challenge back in the day and the Gracies didn't take him up on it.

[cornbread]

I don't give Bruce the le of greatest fighter either

I didn't mean that you said that, but that a lot of people hold him in that regard.

[dbreiden83080]

Wow this turned into quite the debate

I love it..

[dbreiden83080]

Nope. Other way around (you were being sarcastic weren't you)

I honestly wasn't sure what you were driving at? But people got into this thread so it's cool..

[Riles04]

is this even a real ?

[CubanSucks]

is this even a real ?

I didn't think it was until these poll results!!! So shut the up and vote for Anderson!

[dallaskd]

this.... dumbest ive ever heard, just go on youtube and look up bruce lee tournament fights he would kill silva

Lee didnt do very many tournaments. He did demonstrations. Again.. Show me fights.. Real fights..

[dbreiden83080]

Lee didnt do very many tournaments. He did demonstrations. Again.. Show me fights.. Real fights..

Dallas you're taking this a tad serious..

[dallaskd]

is this even a ing question no one in mms could touch bruce lee no one bruce woud put them hands on brock, only way they beat bruce is by holding him down

Are you kidding? Bruce would be a LW in the UFC. Brock Lesnar would steamroll over Bruce Lee. He wouldnt be able to knock him out. A guy that small just doesnt have the power im sorry.

What you're missing is, what Bruce Lee did cannot be compared to a modern all around mma athlete like Georges St. Pierre. Bruce Lee was a street fighter. He would not be good in a fight that had him bound by rules. If you gave Bruce 2 years of ground game he is no doubt the UFC LW champion. But straight up vs Anderson Silva is a terrible match up. Silva dwarfs him and owns him in many aspects of fighting Lee was never taught.

Again stop treating him like a man-god. He was human. Put Anderson in his time and Silva gets the same treatment. Alot like Gracie in the early UFC but in modern mma, you have to be the best in every aspect to dominate. Lee would manhandled by a guy like Overeem if you're saying size doesnt matter.

Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist of all time and a pioneer. But in a MMA fight vs Anderson Silva is a terrible matchup for him unless he had the proper ground training and even then it is a bad fight for him. Think about it.. I dont care how amazing and talented he was.. you are still putting a LW fighter against Anderson ing Silva.. Get real dude.

[BlackSwordsMan]

jean claude van dam > brock lesnar

[dbreiden83080]

jean claude van dam > brock lesnar

[ace3g]

From Jon "Bones" Jones website: (So this is coming from the future of UFC and one of the brightest stars in MMA)

SK: A lot of people call you an unorthodox fighter. I don’t know if it’s because of the crazy strikes or the Greco-Roman base, but do you consider yourself to be unorthodox and do you think that has helped you?

JJ: Yeah, definitely. I don’t necessarily consider myself unorthodox. I’m more into Bruce Lee’s line of thinking; the best way is to have no way, and while I’m out there I try to keep that in mind, so I can’t really say that I’m a boxer or a Thai fighter—I try to use techniques from every style of fighting and I think that helps a lot. When a guy is in a training camp for me he has a lot to think about—spinning back kicks and elbows, Tae Kwon Do kicks, the throws—so yeah I just really try to incorporate the thought of having no way, and it’s really helped me out tremendously.

SK: Well the reason I brought them up—people like St-Pierre and Machida, and you mentioned Bruce Lee—there doesn’t seem to be too many fighters who really treat this as martial arts. If you go to certain MMA gyms they really don’t respect traditional martial arts whereas guys like Keith Jardine, Georges St-Pierre and others like them really seem to treat this as a sport about martial arts and not a blood sport or a tough man compe ion.

JJ: Absolutely. If you’re going to be something you should be it wholeheartedly, and I think the mental aspect is a big part of fighting. You need to control your mind and know how to use your mind to think like a warrior, then you can perform like a warrior. I think people who think about it as a tough man contest can only go so far.

http://www.jonnybones.com/media.html

[CubanSucks]

You have to watch all the way through

[8FOR!3]

I HATE Anderson Silva and he would absolutely wreck Bruce Lee. Might be the first death in the octagon. It would be a brutal brutal brutal KO.

[dbreiden83080]

[Hooks]

I'll take the person that actually FOUGHT, not the guy who you just hear stories from. You guys overrate the out of Bruce Lee's fighting ability. The stories you do hear are a bunch of BS street fights which were probably against small, frail asian guys.

Anderson via KO on the first clean punch he lands. You see people, you just don't develop a chin from working out. In order to develop the ability to take a punch you must take punches, years of sparring people will give you that ability. The same goes for body shots, abdominal muscle doesn't mean if you're not used to getting hit all all over your body. I bet I could KO Bruce Lee if I landed on him, I've got a few years of boxing training and I have no doubt I'd be able to KO someone who doesn't have the training I do and isn't used to getting hit.


I have no doubt in my mind that Pacquiao punches harder and faster than Bruce Lee, years of fighting actual opponents and gaining experience has made Pacman a BEAST. I've yet to see anything really impressive from Lee, dude was fast and skinny but that was pretty much it. He wasn't powerful at all, I've seen him on the bag and his punching technique is embarrassing.


You can look impressive in training and all that stuff but when it comes time to fight it's a whole different story. You can ask just about any trainer of any fighting sport and they'll tell you the exact same thing. You can put a fighter that's 10-0 with 10 Knockouts with all the skill in the world but there is a good chance that he'd lose to a more experienced fighter simply because of experience.


If anyone would like to post a video of Lee doing something crazy, please post it. I've seen his 1 inch punch and I've seen in duplicated, it's not hard to do. I've seen his "speed punch" or palm strike whatever it was it wasn't that fast at all.

[CubanSucks]

any of you es wanna reconsider?

[ace3g]

nope.....(and I picked Bruce Lee)

[dbreiden83080]

[Hooks]

The majority of people that'd choose Lee to win a fight over Silva have probably never fought before, and do not understand the sport of fighting .