Will you shut the up Rogue?
Will you shut the up Rogue?
Just better hope Yao can hold up.
Someone from the Denver newspaper was on Sports Radio 610 Houston today saying NY is probably his top destination, but Houston is definitely at the top of the list. Just gotta wait and see.
I expect them to treat the regular season like one long practice for Yao. I don't expect him to play more than 25 minutes a night until April or early May. Brad will help us out a lot with that.
I'm hoping we get him, but it's pissing me off how Knick fans are looking at our roster and saying we can't top their offer because they "supposedly" have more talent
Anthony, Nuggets look ready to part ways
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Carmelo Anthony(notes) wants out of Denver, and World Wide Wes delivered that message to the Nuggets with all the delicacy of a jackhammer at Sunday morning services. Do yourself a favor and trade him, the agent told the organization weeks ago.
Denver was furnished with a short list of teams and told to get to work. Yes, this how William Wesley and Leon Rose of CAA work now, thick with threats and ultimatums and a swagger suggesting that the sport belongs to them. After Anthony told owner-in-waiting Josh Kroenke that he still wanted out of Denver during a Sunday meeting, the Nuggets appear done trying to sell their All-Star forward on a contract extension.
This wasn’t a productive, nor particularly pleasant, meeting and multiple sources said it could turn out to be the point of no return for Anthony and the organization. Sources insist it’s no longer a matter of if the Nuggets trade Anthony, but when, where and for whom he’s traded for.
“It’s almost a given they’re going to move him,” said a front-office executive who’s talked with the Nuggets and Anthony’s agents with CAA.
Between the agents’ bullying and Anthony’s dismissive disposition in Sunday’s meeting, sources said Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke, Josh’s father, finally made a stand with CAA.
Keep it up, and the Nuggets will never do a deal for one of your clients again.
Try to dictate terms of a trade and we won’t move him.
Keep up the heavy-handedness and you’ll get a war.
Kroenke has decided to deal with CAA in a way most of the league is too fearful to try. Leon Rose, the agent who works with Wesley, backed down, sources said, and is willing to be more open-minded on potential trade destinations. Anthony wants to leave Denver and get his three-year, $65 million contract extension now. This partnership is rounding third and rapidly reaching disrepair. Denver is willing to trade Anthony, J.R. Smith(notes) and Kenyon Martin(notes), and start over again, sources said.
The Nuggets made it clear to teams they want young players and draft picks for Anthony, league executives said. The New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the two most probable destinations for Anthony because they have assets that appeal to Denver. The geography works for Anthony because of his wife LaLa Vazquez’s entertainment career.
Golden State and Houston are contenders, too. What’s more, the Charlotte Bobcats are a sleeper because of Anthony’s Brand Jordan shoe deal and the team’s ability to give the Nuggets a salary-dump proposal.
Back in mid-July, the Kroenkes had to travel to New York for Anthony’s wedding to finally realize he no longer intended to sign their extension offer. The reception spiraled into an evening of Chris Paul(notes) and Anthony’s brother making toasts about a future partnership for Anthony and Paul in New York with the Knicks. With nothing to trade for Anthony, though, New York isn’t considered a strong contender in the eyes of Denver management.
Few can be as strong-minded and willful as Stan Kroenke, and it doesn’t matter the Nuggets will be turned over to his son Josh by the end of the year. Stan still will be lording over the franchise, and the billionaire has shown an old-school ability to carry through on his convictions once you’ve lost him as an ally.
With the way that CAA has tried to muscle and manipulate the market this summer, a source said Stan Kroenke, freshly approved as the St. Louis Rams owner, feels further emboldened in the NBA’s collective bargaining talks to push for a “franchise player” tag that teams could slap on superstars like the one the NFL uses. NBA owners are still far from seriously discussing that issue, but CAA’s manipulation of Anthony and Paul while under contract has become an increasingly sore subject within the league.
For now, the departure of Denver general manager Mark Warkentien and the increased influence of Kroenke advisor Bret Bearup means there won’t be much of a fight within the organization to stay the course with Anthony, sources said. Denver has hired Masai Ujiri as its new GM, but he doesn’t arrive with the authority to make major moves. Things have deteriorated too fast and grown too nasty to believe Denver will turn back now. ‘Melo is on the market, and the bidding has begun.
That's exactly what we have to offer. Our 2011, 2013, and NY 2012 first round picks. Budinger, Hill, Jeffries (expiring), and cash. Everybody is happy.The Nuggets made it clear to teams they want young players and draft picks for Anthony, league executives said.
A least the Nuggets won't get shafted like the Cavs/Raps
Gotta be at least a handful of teams who will put together decent packages, so at least there will be a bidding war.
Depending on what the Nuggets can get for Melo will probably also affect what happens with CB. They may as well trade him as well if they can't compete after the Melo trade
If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha. about 2 hours ago via web
To clarify earlier post, Den would get much more than Damp -- get the NY picks from Hou, for starters. Only got 140 characters. 1 minute ago via web
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^^^^ not sure if brooks to cha. will work, they're pretty big on williams and his $7m contract
lol houston gots trying to assrape the Nuggets
Sure Budinger instead of Lee or Martin.
Rockets 11&13 would be pretty worthless after this trade, Knicks pick could be also #10-15.
And Melo choosing Houston and praying for Yaos health if he can go to NY with Amare and later Paul, sure
Melo has said he isn't waiting around on NY, of course he could be bull tin' , but if he really wants to be traded before the season, or even at the deadline, it won't be to the Knicks because they don't have anything to give up.
Nuggets should get as much cap space and just tank it till 2013 and get Dwight/Dwill
oh snap, i am sounding like a Knicks fan the last couple of seasons![]()
Lakers should offer that triple threat Lamar Odom, the smart and heady ball player Luke Walton and the deadeye three point shooter Sasha Vujacic for that head case Anthony.
Nuggets may get the best of that deal.
lol Jerry West isn't running the Nuggs
That's what the team is asking for you ing lummox. What part of draft picks and young talent don't you understand?
Yup, and Melo had the decency to say that he wants to take his talents to another city so that the Nuggets could plan.
Well at least my life as a Nuggets fan will be easier after this offseason
No more trying to defend Melo, JR or Kmart.........all those guys will be gone and hopefully the Nuggets will have some decent character guys who actually care about basketball.
Melo will be missed of course but in the end he was a scoring machine and not much else.
I am looking forward to the next chapter of the Nuggets franchise. Melo wasn't taking this team to a le and lately he just doesn't seem to give two hoots about bball.
It's ironic that all the people that were bagging him are probably the ones vying for him to be on their team, and here i am thankful that i can finally stop trying to talk him up
If the Nuggets could get a young package with a guy like Favours in it, then i think they will have done well. Who knows what packages are being offered though. Hopefully there is at least one good prospect in each package.
Martin, Lee, Brooks all those guys are young talent. You're just trying to offload your worst young talent. Denver should not accept that unless you're willing to throw a decent young player or two in there.
Martin is not what the Nuggets mean by young talent and you know it. They may want Aaron Brooks, but Lee cannot be traded right now so he's out of the picture. Besides, are you telling me Budinger and Hill are not decent young players? I would think a rebuilding team would want players with potential on rookie contracts.
Budinger and Hill are averaged young heads and nothing special.
Brooks & Martin & Melo and just one ball, Yao going down, gonna be fun.
And Knicks have nothing to offer?
Gali, AR, Chandler, and Curry & Azus expirings, some later NY picks etc. Thats even better than your trash offer (Rockets picks would be worthless) and they can ship Anthonys ass into the east.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=29vnjjv
Melo is a pussy got and Laker fan wants nothing to do with that loser. Anyways.
Enjoy the lottery![]()
oh well. you were really serious with your proposal. I guess most thought it was meant as a lame joke.
for the record: Nuggets will ask for potential high lottery picks, not some in the 20s.
and by young talent they mean young all-star talent, not bench player talent. (and no, Budinger and Hill are not all star material. be happy if they turn into decent bench player down the road)
Rockets could offer a somehow decent package, but it is far from what for example Nets could offer. (and btw., if Knicks offer a package with Gallinari and Randolph, that package has much more talent than what the Rockets could assemble with their young players)
however, any package built around Favors will be better than what most other teams could ever offer. Favors, Williams, 2011 1st rounder (plus Murphy to make the numbers work)
that's where you start talking!
btw. if Nuggets blow up the team this summer, Billups won't be in their long term plans as well.
I wonder if they could manage to package him with Melo and get back Harris. right, even at 34 Billups is much better than Harris, but for a rebuilding team Harris might be a better option long term. Nets would take Billups, he would turn them with into a PO team immediately.
and Harris (who is better than he showed last season) gives the Nuggets a decent solution at PG for several years. (Lawson is ok, but to small for most match ups)
just a guess.
Harris-Afflalo-Williams-Favors-Nene and Lawson off the bench. that's not a bad building block to restart.
Im expecting a seperate Melo and Billups trade.
I could see Billups ending up in Charlotte for Damps contract.
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