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    I don't fight the difficulty in games like Fallout. The combat system in that game is so rudimentary. Why fight relatively limited controls in addition to your enemy? I'd say the same about Mass Effect 1, but the squad based, real time strategy mitigates the argument at higher difficulty. Nevertheless, just go along for the awesome ride of the story and character; the point of games like Fallout isn't to make you scrap and die over and again until you get it right. Save your technique for Veteran CoD4, any true FPS, Ninja Gaiden and 2-d platformers.
    I see what you're saying, and I agree to a point, but it's nice to have a challenge. That way, when I clear out a building, I know I did it through some measure of skill. It makes the story all the more rewarding by feeling like I had to struggle to earn the rewards of the story along the way, as well as endgame. Fallout 3 is nothing, if not a story of struggle and the devastating consequences of war, living on the edge of existence, etc. It feels authentic and a lot more fun if I'm constantly having to scrap for ammo and health and anti-radiation meds to get by until the next area.

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    And personally, I thought Fallout lended itself to being underpopulated. It bugged me in Oblivion that you had what seemed like thousands of acres of world and only a few NPCs sprinkled throughout and into these mammoth towns. That was a conflict of technical limit vs. conceptual design; it didn't feel real enough given the premise and grandeur of the game.

    Whereas in Fallout, it made perfect sense that there were no NPCs... they were ash or hanging in a gore bag. The design of the game, from the bombed out buildings, to dust floating by you and burnt grass, or the eerie silence, reinforced the idea that you were in an empty wasteland. And conceptually, that was a really good way to handle what I thought was a big flaw in Oblivion. It was the exact right franchise for Bethesda to work on.

    Same goes for RDR, btw. Not a coincidence.

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    I get killed all the damn time in Fallout 3. But, that could be largely because a) I haven't had much time to play and I'm at a ridiculously low level, and b) I tend to be one of those oblivious players who doesn't realize I'm completely out of health, ammo, and useful weapons until after I've wandered into the radiation field filled with tons of things that want to kill me. So, "oh !," die, rinse, repeat. I'm amusingly spastic when playing shooters, especially when they require strategy or, heaven forbid, careful stealthiness.

    Love the game, though. Well, as much as I can. It's one of those games that I think stands out as a great example of what it is, but what it is will never be my favorite type of game. I'm not a huge RPG person, generally, and not a huge fan of open world games. With a limited amount of time available to dedicate to gaming, I'll invariably get to a point where I realize that more than half of the hours I've put into playing have been dedicated to aimlessly wandering around the wasteland (or city, or whatever) and traveling between missions, rather than making tangible forward momentum within the storyline, and I'll move on to something else for a while.

    That being said, I'd really hoped to dedicate a lot of my free time this summer to playing this one and Gamefly can suck it for not sending it to me.

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    I see what you're saying, and I agree to a point, but it's nice to have a challenge. That way, when I clear out a building, I know I did it through some measure of skill. It makes the story all the more rewarding by feeling like I had to struggle to earn the rewards of the story along the way, as well as endgame. Fallout 3 is nothing, if not a story of struggle and the devastating consequences of war, living on the edge of existence, etc. It feels authentic and a lot more fun if I'm constantly having to scrap for ammo and health and anti-radiation meds to get by until the next area.
    For sure.( Especially for Dark Reign, who seems to be pretty hardcore elite, to say the least.) There's something to be said for grinding it out like a true post-apocalypto and I respect it, but I guess, , I'm just too lazy. Those games are long enough.

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    Oblivion atm

    Amazing game as well as Fallout

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    1. League of Legends. Love it.

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    1. League of Legends. Love it.
    How'd you find out about LoL?

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    I played through the StarCraft II campaign and it was really good. I really don't like to play online since I have to/like to pause the game here and there to do some other things and you obviously can't do that while you're in the middle of an online game.

    So, I've been re-playing all three Age of Empires lately. I'm midway through The Asian Dynasties, so I'm almost done. Next up is Mafia II, but I'm really looking forward to New Vegas and whatever else comes out by christmas.

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    I get killed all the damn time in Fallout 3. But, that could be largely because a) I haven't had much time to play and I'm at a ridiculously low level, and b) I tend to be one of those oblivious players who doesn't realize I'm completely out of health, ammo, and useful weapons until after I've wandered into the radiation field filled with tons of things that want to kill me. So, "oh !," die, rinse, repeat. I'm amusingly spastic when playing shooters, especially when they require strategy or, heaven forbid, careful stealthiness.

    Love the game, though. Well, as much as I can. It's one of those games that I think stands out as a great example of what it is, but what it is will never be my favorite type of game. I'm not a huge RPG person, generally, and not a huge fan of open world games. With a limited amount of time available to dedicate to gaming, I'll invariably get to a point where I realize that more than half of the hours I've put into playing have been dedicated to aimlessly wandering around the wasteland (or city, or whatever) and traveling between missions, rather than making tangible forward momentum within the storyline, and I'll move on to something else for a while.

    That being said, I'd really hoped to dedicate a lot of my free time this summer to playing this one and Gamefly can suck it for not sending it to me.
    fallout 3 is one of the easiest games you can play when you team up with someone. have you reached the point where u can team up with Charon? Easy. you're right about the time though. I never got to enjoy it when it first came out due to time constraints. that's why a lot of times I prefer linear (or somewhat) stories like Mass Effect, which isn't linear in the classic sense, but compared to fallout is.

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    Currently FFXIII, GoW2, and Bioshock. When I'm not playing 2k, that is.

    I'm always like a year behind with games, but they sure are a of a lot cheaper that way.

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    I see what you're saying, and I agree to a point, but it's nice to have a challenge. That way, when I clear out a building, I know I did it through some measure of skill. It makes the story all the more rewarding by feeling like I had to struggle to earn the rewards of the story along the way, as well as endgame. Fallout 3 is nothing, if not a story of struggle and the devastating consequences of war, living on the edge of existence, etc. It feels authentic and a lot more fun if I'm constantly having to scrap for ammo and health and anti-radiation meds to get by until the next area.
    You mentioned something that irks me about FO3.

    I can never go very long without having to hike back to Megaton and unload the crapload of I have ac ulated while out and about. Even with the Ghoul dude in "party" and loading his ugly-ass up, I still clear a building, loot most everything and have to run back to Megaton and store in my lockers.

    Moreover, maybe this has to do with your argument, but in all these types of games, I never have to (or choose to) use any of the buff "potions". I have literally hundreds of RadAway and Jet because I have never felt I needed them. I mean damn, the only thing I am using not named a Stimpak is Vodka/Scotch for the STR bonus so I can, you guessed it, carry more useless that I can never sell because vendors in Rivet City and Megaton run out of money before I even get through my "Apparel Locker" ( one locker is for crafting, one for weapons, one for apparel, the desk upstairs is for bull and the fridge downstairs is for all the special like Scrap Metal, unique outfits, named weapons, Blood Packs, PreWar Books, etc).

    ...and this gripe extends to all games. Like Dragon Age, all the potions, pots and bull you ac ulate is just a waste of inventory space beyond health pots and mana pots. Nature salves, Ice-this, flame-that...all crap, all never used or crafted.

    Just seems to be a waste, at least they are for the type of player I am, I guess. IIRC, and honestly its been awhile, I think Oblivion was the same way.

    Mass Effect, otoh, didnt have that problem and I liked it for that.

    The only game I ever used that sort of stuff in was WoW, because if you didnt, you didnt stand a chance against those who did.

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    You mentioned something that irks me about FO3.

    I can never go very long without having to hike back to Megaton and unload the crapload of I have ac ulated while out and about. Even with the Ghoul dude in "party" and loading his ugly-ass up, I still clear a building, loot most everything and have to run back to Megaton and store in my lockers.

    Moreover, maybe this has to do with your argument, but in all these types of games, I never have to (or choose to) use any of the buff "potions". I have literally hundreds of RadAway and Jet because I have never felt I needed them. I mean damn, the only thing I am using not named a Stimpak is Vodka/Scotch for the STR bonus so I can, you guessed it, carry more useless that I can never sell because vendors in Rivet City and Megaton run out of money before I even get through my "Apparel Locker" ( one locker is for crafting, one for weapons, one for apparel, the desk upstairs is for bull and the fridge downstairs is for all the special like Scrap Metal, unique outfits, named weapons, Blood Packs, PreWar Books, etc).

    ...and this gripe extends to all games. Like Dragon Age, all the potions, pots and bull you ac ulate is just a waste of inventory space beyond health pots and mana pots. Nature salves, Ice-this, flame-that...all crap, all never used or crafted.

    Just seems to be a waste, at least they are for the type of player I am, I guess. IIRC, and honestly its been awhile, I think Oblivion was the same way.

    Mass Effect, otoh, didnt have that problem and I liked it for that.

    The only game I ever used that sort of stuff in was WoW, because if you didnt, you didnt stand a chance against those who did.
    You know you can fast teleport to the town, right? You don't have to walk....

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    fallout 3 is one of the easiest games you can play when you team up with someone. have you reached the point where u can team up with Charon?
    Not yet. Like I said, I've hardly made any progress. And it's probably getting close to a year since I played what little I did.

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    How'd you find out about LoL?
    I believe I read it on a site while looking up info about DotA. I was about to buy WC3 again so I could play (lost my damn key), and found out about that instead.

    I found out about DotA during my deployment in 05 to Kyrgyzstan. Us escorts would bust in the Morale tent late at night and take over the ten computers, all Lan'd together.

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    Unfortunately I haven't playing much either. Red Dead Redemption has just been sitting there begging me to play. I downloaded the Limbo demo and have yet to play it. And Madden and Halo Reach are just begging me to buy them.

    But I don't have time really.

    When I do find a bit of time, the guys at work and I throw down on some MW2. We've been playing a lot of hardcore mode lately.

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    Unfortunately I haven't playing much either. Red Dead Redemption has just been sitting there begging me to play. I downloaded the Limbo demo and have yet to play it. And Madden and Halo Reach are just begging me to buy them.

    But I don't have time really.

    When I do find a bit of time, the guys at work and I throw down on some MW2. We've been playing a lot of hardcore mode lately.
    tbh Red Dead is a great game, just too short imho. It is too easy to beat once you get really into it and the multiplayer is meh. The free roam sucks ass compared to GTA's free roam but it is still a badass singleplayer game. I don't know how any of the DLC's are though

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    For a while my brother was searching for a mint nes. He finally found one "like new" and wanted to play with a game with me he swore on when he was younger.. I never played the original nes just the super nintendo. He got me hooked on super dodge ball. For such a low graphic game it is very fun! Its fun to watch the players get tired and hit and fly across the screen.

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    You know you can fast teleport to the town, right? You don't have to walk....
    Smartass.

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    He got me hooked on super dodge ball. For such a low graphic game it is very fun! Its fun to watch the players get tired and hit and fly across the screen.
    Holy , blast from the past! Great game.

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    I had to quit playing TF2 about 7 months ago, a while after the ridiculous demoman update came out. They have systematically ruined it, and the hat/crafting stuff is beyond stupid.

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    I believe I read it on a site while looking up info about DotA. I was about to buy WC3 again so I could play (lost my damn key), and found out about that instead.

    I found out about DotA during my deployment in 05 to Kyrgyzstan. Us escorts would bust in the Morale tent late at night and take over the ten computers, all Lan'd together.
    Wow, so not only did you get a game that's arguably (I would say definitely) better than DotA, but it was free! I'd call that an upgrade.

    Man, that sounds awesome. LANning late into the early morning hours.... drool-worthy for any gaming geek.

    Well, I'm just saying that it makes shuffling goods back and forth to sell a lot easier.

    You sound like you hoarded too much, anyway. I beat the game without needing tons of stuff, although I never really got around to decorating my home in Megaton. Why do I need decorations for a place that I'm only going to to sleep, get radiation treatment, or to dump guns?

    They could have made it a lot worse and given the lockers an extremely limited storage capacity.

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    You sound like you hoarded too much, anyway. I beat the game without needing tons of stuff, although I never really got around to decorating my home in Megaton. Why do I need decorations for a place that I'm only going to to sleep, get radiation treatment, or to dump guns?
    I personally decorated my home... have all the unique helmets lined up on my shelf, that magazine you get for finishing the survival guide on the desk near my bed, a coca-cola van, a few suits lined up, a mallet propped up against the wall... It's badass.

    Heck, I even had a doggie bowl with some meat in it there for the dog. I leave him at the house cause I don't want him getting killed... plus it's fun to come home to him.

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    I personally decorated my home... have all the unique helmets lined up on my shelf, that magazine you get for finishing the survival guide on the desk near my bed, a coca-cola van, a few suits lined up, a mallet propped up against the wall... It's badass.
    That sounds pretty wicked. The next time I play through the game I'll have to do that.

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    rome and medieval 2. i play their mods stainless steel and total realism. been playing that for about four years now.

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