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    Veteran namlook's Avatar
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    You can have these meaningless discussions about every great player. What if Jordan played for the Clippers, how many les would he have won? Who cares? All that matters is what has actually happened.

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    No he didn't. Last I checked we played the Suns two years in a row with teams that did not belong there and we were a rebound from knocking them out.

    LOL. Comparing the west to east. The East has been a cakewalk for most of the past decade. Win about 40% and you are in the playoffs.

    Kobe may not have beaten the Spurs in 07 if he played for the Cavs. But I can assure you he would not have been swept.
    LMAO, Kobe's career was all about depending on a big man,then eventually taking the credit for himself. Who was Lebron's dependable big back in 07? Gooden, Big Z, Varejao? Kobe would have demanded a trade after seeing these bigs on the Cavs' bench.

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    LMAO, Kobe's career was all about depending on a big man
    Nonsense.

    Magic never won a ring without a Hall of Fame bigman. He also had another Hall of Famer in Worthy. Magic never won a ring without two Hall Of Famers on his team.
    Magic + 2 HOF = 5 rings.

    Bird never won without two Hall Of Fame bigmen. He also had a third Hall Of Famer in Dennis Johnson. Bird never won a ring without three Hall Of Famers playing on his team.
    Bird + 3 HOF = 3 rings

    When Kobe has won rings he has only had one Hall of Fame player (or potential HOF player) on his team during those seasons and has 5 rings.
    Kobe + 1 HOF = 5 rings

    All of a sudden Kobe is looking more impressive now isn't he?

    Trivia question: Who in NBA history except Kobe has won 5 rings or more with only one HOF player (or one potential HOF player) on his team each of those championship seasons?

    Hint: It's a very short list.
    Last edited by namlook; 09-02-2010 at 06:08 AM.

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    Nonsense.

    Magic never won a ring without a Hall of Fame bigman. He also had another Hall of Famer in Worthy. Magic never won a ring without two Hall Of Famers on his team.
    Magic + 2 HOF = 5 rings.

    Bird never won without two Hall Of Fame bigmen. He also had a third Hall Of Famer in Dennis Johnson. Bird never won a ring without three Hall Of Famers playing on his team.
    Bird + 3 HOF = 3 rings

    When Kobe has won rings he has only had one Hall of Fame player (or potential HOF player) on his team during those seasons and has 5 rings.
    Kobe + 1 HOF = 5 rings

    All of a sudden Kobe is looking more impressive now isn't he?

    Trivia question: Who in NBA history except Kobe has won 5 rings or more with only one HOF player (or one potential HOF player) on his team each of those championship seasons?

    Hint: It's a very short list.
    The difference between Bird/Magic with Kobe is that they were the de facto Batman of their teams. It's an unquestioned and a universally-accepted truth. Kobe meanwhile has a huge asterisk before his name from 2000-2002.

    You can't revise history, brah. There were just so many people who witnessed the Robin that Kobe was to Shaq.

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    Nonsense.

    Magic never won a ring without a Hall of Fame bigman. He also had another Hall of Famer in Worthy. Magic never won a ring without two Hall Of Famers on his team.
    Magic + 2 HOF = 5 rings.

    Bird never won without two Hall Of Fame bigmen. He also had a third Hall Of Famer in Dennis Johnson. Bird never won a ring without three Hall Of Famers playing on his team.
    Bird + 3 HOF = 3 rings

    When Kobe has won rings he has only had one Hall of Fame player (or potential HOF player) on his team during those seasons and has 5 rings.
    Kobe + 1 HOF = 5 rings

    All of a sudden Kobe is looking more impressive now isn't he?

    Trivia question: Who in NBA history except Kobe has won 5 rings or more with only one HOF player (or one potential HOF player) on his team each of those championship seasons?

    Hint: It's a very short list.
    Good post. Funny part about it is, before Pau came and played with Kobe, everybody called him soft. Pau Gasoft was the buzzword you always hear. 0-12 with the Grizzlies with Battier or Rudy Gay as his 2nd fiddle. Everybody was harping on him. But look at him now: the undisputed best PF in the game. When he is a major contributor to a couple more rings, he will be highly considered for the HOF. And people say Kobe doesn't make his teammates better.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    hahah 3 years ago it was "Kobe cant win without Shaq"....now its "Kobe cant win without a big man"

    LOL.

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    Good post. Funny part about it is, before Pau came and played with Kobe, everybody called him soft. Pau Gasoft was the buzzword you always hear. 0-12 with the Grizzlies with Battier or Rudy Gay as his 2nd fiddle. Everybody was harping on him. But look at him now: the undisputed best PF in the game. When he is a major contributor to a couple more rings, he will be highly considered for the HOF. And people say Kobe doesn't make his teammates better.
    You exemplify what we are looking for. You are now a member of the Baby Drew Crew until you say otherwise.

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