fair enough, i took offense and think got overly defensive but i'm really a pretty reasonable guy. i'd definitely be up for a few games, the problem being logistics since i live in austin. i got a wedding to attend in san antonio come november but i'm open to trying to work this out if at all possible. i'm fine with 8 ball, callling shots and using house sticks. , maybe even play for a shot or two but don't usually make it a habit to play for money. i also don't mind losing a fair game and same as you, like to learn from better players, think it's the best way to improve, so if you best me, i'd readily admit it here or on any other forum.