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You are a ing clown. Yeah, the printed word is so much more ignorant than some unsourced, bigoted, xenophobic, rightwing blog produced, piece of youtube video. Get a clue you testicle sucking .
You are a ing clown. Yeah, the printed word is so much more ignorant than some unsourced, bigoted, xenophobic, rightwing blog produced, piece of youtube video. Get a clue you testicle sucking .
I can understand where it might be poor thinking on the teacher's part, but if a child asked to go pray, I don't think it'd be poor timing to do so on a field trip to a mosque. I'm fine with agreeing to disagree there.I think that's already been codified, LnG. I doubt a field trip is an appropriate time to do that and coupled with the fact that the parents really need to have granted permission for them to take place in any other organized activity outside of the field trip, makes for a colossal failure in the teacher's judgement.
I understand where you're coming from, especially in light of Yoni's unhinged ascertation that Mosques are preying on our children (), but the fact remains, there's a pretty clear divider in when a student can and cannot take part in an organized religious activity during the school day.
Now, I don't believe children should be "coerced" or forced in any way into prayer. I'm only stating that if a child asked to be part of a prayer, then (time/schedule permitting) I don't see a problem with letting that child express his freedom of speech and religion.
I agree that children shouldn't be "coerced". If they were asked "Would you like to join?" and they said yes, I'm not too concerned.
Also, I think it's fine for a child to pray for a religion he may not believe in; children are growing and learning about the world aroudn them, and some students may decide to "try out" different forms of religion and the practices involved.
The video contained a little bit too much demagougery for my liking.
Wait, did the kids want to participate? I don't see how thats a problem if they're not being forced or its not a school sanctioned event.
That's the kicker tho...it was a field trip.
Or so they can be exposed to regular Muslims participating in their form of worship. I don't think exposure to other religions is, itself, a bad thing. But if kids were in a mosque and praying as a part of a school sanctioned FT, that crosses a line.
You say that, others say the kids volunteered to participate. I'm taking the others' word for it over yours. No offense.Watch the video. It was much more than a field trip. Some poor Jewish middle school child (and a couple of others) were actually convinced to join in midday prayer, prostrating themselves to Allah and all that...
Schools get pitched FT destinations all the time, from a number of different religious groups. Christian Science museums reach out to schools all the time.This wasn't a school that decided to take a field trip to a mosque, this was a Muslim organization that pitches these field trips to schools as a way to proselytize Islam to children.
It's up to the schools to decide which ones to go on. No Muslim organization can MAKE public schools bring kids to their places of worship.
i can't believe they took those kids to the belly of satan.
Who would know? The adults (since they were all females and Islam is a sexist religion) were all ushered from the room before whatever was said or done to get the kids involved.
Yeah, I don't know though. I mean could they STOP a kid from praying if they wanted? Its probably best to avoid any field trips to any non historical religious sites unless the kids are in some type of religious education program.
The more I think about it there are too many possible problems with children visiting religious locations like this. It should be avoided in the future.
Personally I would like my children exposed to a lot of different religions so they could form an open minded opinion on where their spirituality lies. Obviously though, schools won't be able to accommodate every religion and that makes it inherently unfair and impossible to provide equality so they should just stay out of the situation and let parents handle it at home.
And the repercussions need to be termination for those adults who allowed this to happen
Stick to trolling.
Stick to being cuckolded.
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Eh I disagree. I think most of the board are aware that I'm an atheist, but no one can deny the numerous historical, artistic and various other contributions that religion has brought about. I think it's important for children to understand religion, and the impact it had has on society, throughout our history. I think field trips to religious sites are invaluable in understanding these cultures, just as field trips to the beach are helpful in determining the type of creatures that live in the coast.
Reading about something in a book is far less effective than actually experiencing it.
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Ok, Yoni. I actually gave that video a full viewing.
You're right. It's very disturbing...but probably not for the reasons you think it is.
lol @ sad piano music. C'mon, what a cheap propaganda hack trick.
lol @ earnest voice overs.
lol @ naked excerpts of sermons with no context other than the narrative.
lol @ Saudi History lesson.
lol @ using a moment of very poor judgement to base your rallying cry upon.
Look, I'm a pretty staunch atheist. I'm really predisposed to not tolerating any of that bull . However, I am possessed of an occupied brain-pan. It's clear there's a problem here. It's also clear that the video is a ridiculous piece of propaganda.
Don't forget the actress that did the voice over for the parents letter. Very compelling.
I think it's perfectly acceptable for a school to focus on religions that have had a significant impact on history, and leave out those that are relatively minor in the big scheme of things. I think the expectation that schools might have to accommodate every religion is as absurd as the idea that they have to incorporate every theory on a subject just to be "fair".
Obviously, if you are troubled by this, you are Islamophobic.
Did they let the kids witness a female genital cutting?
LoL...That's disgusting!
That video makes me want to cry.
Obviously if your concern is on a church/state separation level, that would apply across religions and would not necessarily be Islamophobia.
Obviously if you are troubled because you see Islam as a brainwashing cult that is targeting your children and there is nothing you can do to prevent your kids from praying to Allah and disgracing your Christian heritage, then you are Islamophobic.
Obviously if you post something like this out of nowhere you are Islamophobic. But we already knew that. What's next?Did they let the kids witness a female genital cutting?
If criticizing certain practices of Islam that I think are backward-assed and barbaric makes me Islamophobic, then I'm Islamophobic.
Give it a rest with your obvioulsy bull . Those people are ing animals butchering those kids up.
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