She's a in train wreck..
Yeah but people put dumb-ass labels on everything these days. Any problem someone has they run to a shrink looking for a label.. My biggest LOL with this stuff is the so called Sex Addicts..
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So if you are a drug addict or boozer you go to rehab to get clean for good of those subtances but if you are a Sex Addict you are supposed to still have sex but not be abusive with it.. RIGHTTTTTT...
What a crock of ..
Even an addict has the choice whether to feed their addiction or not.
I don't buy that statement. Family members of addicts often understand as much, if not more, than the addicts themselves.
Agreed. I still drink more than i should. I Used to drink every day.. 5 or 6 drinks a day or more. Now i do it maybe 3 or 4 days a week, very often less than that because i am so busy. When i have something important going on i don't drink. Ever. I'm back at school, you'll never see me making a presentation with a bad hang-over..
I choose when to do it and when not to do it..
Sure, and its your choice to eat or not.
Lol
Most times the family understand least about addiction. But again, you don't understand unless you are an addict.
nothing to see here, lindsay just failing what she's accustomed to fail.
Maybe you don't understand unless you are the family member of an addict. Family members or close friends can often see with clear eyes what really happens, not the muddled, often incorrect imperceptions the addict gets through their chemical-induced fog. If there is something addicts generally get wrong, it's reality and how to deal with it.
I am the family member of an addict, and a recovering addict that went to a treatment center for 30 days. I have seen both sides of the coin and I disagree with your statements.
Initially, yeah. It's kind of a weird line. Calling it a disease frees them of responsibility, but saying it isn't a disease is not medically accurate. You have a lot of changes from a physiologic perspective (receptor down regulation, increased dopaminergic firing, changes in the synapses of the VTA). She does seem like a , but you can't extrapolate that to everyone with a substance abuse problem. For some people, it is no longer a choice. The pharmacology behind addiction is very powerful. I mean, you can take it down to it's most basic level. Dopamine has a lot of roles, and one of them is that it is a chemical that stimulates your reward center. You release some when you eat, drink, have sex...basically all the essential functions for life. You release so much more with cocaine than you would ever find in a natural cir stance. Over time, your brain incorporates that into one of it's essential functions for survival. You must take in cocaine to survive (or at least that's the message you're receiving from your brain). It's more complicated than that, but I'm just saying, there's more to addiction than choice.
Last edited by Death In June; 09-19-2010 at 03:21 PM.
Not the same thing.
If you choose not to eat, you'll die. Simple as that. Eating, breathing, sleeping...all of these are human functions that cannot be denied.
If you choose not to do meth, it's not going to kill you. No matter how much addicts feel like it will.
Sure, breaking an addiction requires getting past several hurdles, both physiological and psychological. But it's still a self-inflicted affliction, bred and nurtured out of personal choice and bad decisions / lack of discipline.
When it comes down to it, we are all given the chance to decide what we will or will not allow in our bodies. Generally speaking, people don't choose to get cancer, or diabetes, or other natural-born diseases; It's something that they are just forced to live with. I think that is the reason people have a problem calling alcoholism / addiction a "disease", as it seems like it's excusing the bad decisions that caused the problem in the first place as unavoidable cir stance.
I guess she forgot to take the certo and palo azul and run like crazy on the treadmill to sweat it out.
Anyways, there comes a point in every ones life when you have to grow the up and quit acting like a child. What Lohan needs is to do is to get away from Hollywood, so she could leave that drug/party lifestyle for good. If she stays in it, she's going to be falling in the hole due to the temptations that Hollywood has to offer.
I can't stop playing on the computer all day as my lazy ass smokes pot and borrows money from my girlfriend. I have a serious disease and I am trying to cope with it, I would really appreciate it if people would get off my back and let me try and live my life as I struggle with this serious disease.
Where is the compassion for this young girl who loves to spend millions on clothes,cars, booze, and drugs as she makes movies and parties with friends?
Do any of you heads have a heart and soul how can you be so rude where is your sympathy?
Last edited by mouse; 09-19-2010 at 04:51 PM.
Must be nice to have a chick who supports you and your drug habbit. Anyways, Mouse you still fix laptops cause I got some work for you?
what can i say I am gifted below the belt
As long as it's software related,or lost data.Anyways, Mouse you still fix laptops cause I got some work for you?
to replace boards and CPUs only if they are DELLs
go to the geek forum.
Having thought about it for a while, I can begin to see points the other side has made. I still don't necessarily buy them, but they are a bit more clear. It's difficult to reconcile with the idea that a "disease" might be something you choose to give yourself, but I understood the concept a bit better when I considered the diabetics who knowingly ate themselves into it, or the smokers who end up with lung cancer.
Nobody chooses to be an addict. The addiction is the disease. One can drink or use drugs without becoming an addict, but once one becomes an addict is when one gets the disease and there is no cure. One can learn to manage the disease by using whatever tools necessary to abstain from use but that person will always be an addict.
It's no different than the examples you give about diabetes or lung cancer. Yet people with those diseases are given sympathy but alcoholics and addicts are mostly given by people that don't understand the disease.
I remember when I was first drinking I would decide to only have one beer in a night. After that one beer I would have a burning in my body that could only be soothed by having more alcohol. I didn't want to drink more but before I knew it I would be 12-14 beers deep, trying to soothe the burning in my body. Only have a couple and stopping was never an option. That's the disease. Once I learned to stay away altogether and understood why I was drinking I was able to get it under control. But I now know I can never have just one without getting back into the downward spiral that led me to want to quit in the first place. I will always be an addict.
Sons you might fail the drug test if you her
If you commit or crime or violate the terms of your probation or parole, don't tweet about it. It makes it easier to catch you.
Nevermind then. It's HP, and I think the problem is internal.
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