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It's like when Kobe was considering that Chicago trade=there'd a been nobody left to play with.
I think the Nets would still be slightly better after the Melo trade than the Knicks would, but I agree that the difference isn't that significant.
(it could be, if Lopez makes another step and becomes a legit all star center)
thinking about the reported Knicks package (they would need to add Curry to make the numbers work IMO), it's not that bad for the Nuggets, even if they don't get an additional pick. (that pick would be a lottery protected pick anyhow, if the Nets trade lands them one) Randolph could turn into a star and Gallinari will be a pretty good player for many years. and Douglas might be better than many think. (George Hill might be an accurate comparison). he would equal the value of a non lottery 1st round pick.
Knicks will be thin, but the re building project doesn't see them as a contender in the 1st year anyhow.
btw. Bill Walker might surprise some people next season. he lost bulked down about 25 lbs, after that he should definitely be one of the quickest perimeter defender. with Azubuike and Chandler the wing looks pretty good, even after the trade. as mentioned, Felton isn't bad either. he will fit nice for the P&R with Amare and his defense is also quite good. the big hole will be inside defense, that's where the Knicks would need to find help via MLE or trade at the next off season.
It's like when Kobe was considering that Chicago trade=there'd a been nobody left to play with.
Warriors willing to trade for Anthony without accepting extension?
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...out_extension/
Trading Stephen Curry for a Melo rental would be a monumental mistake. Curry is one of those few players in the league with the potential to become GOAT (along with Reke and Durant).
17.5 PPG
4.5 RPG
5.9 APG
44% FG
43% 3PTer
1.9 SPG
You DON'T trade away your rookie combo guard who can pass and shoot. That is the magical combination for a guard.
The Warriors ain't partin' with CurryPERIOD
Lol, no way they part with Curry
^What, there's a f'in' echo in here, Deep?
Nuggets trying to shed K-Mart, Smith in Melo deal
Ken Berger
The Carmelo Anthony saga moved to the next phase Tuesday, with the Nets trying to provide more cap relief to the Nuggets by finding a new home for Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith, CBSSports.com has learned.
It may be a futile effort to revive this excruciatingly slow-moving blockbuster, given mixed priorities within the Denver front office and some lingering doubts about whether Melo will be willing to give his thumbs-up on a trade to New Jersey.
“I think he’s thumbs-sideways on it,” said one source familiar with Anthony’s stance. “He’s not 100 percent sold on it.”
Martin, whose $16.5 million expiring contract would be a valuable asset at the trade deadline, and Smith, who has a $6.8 million expiring deal and controversy wherever he goes, could be the final pieces that compel the Nuggets to sign off on a divorce with Anthony. Denver would only have to take back $17.5 million under NBA trade rules for those two players, a savings of $5.8 million – twice that when you factor in luxury tax. The contract – or contracts – would have to be expiring because there would be no incentive for Denver to take on future salary.
Numerous scenarios have been explored that would allow the Nuggets to send out both Martin and Smith in the complicated deal – including the players going to New Jersey or to yet another team looking to take advantage of the four-team stalemate by dumping longer-term money. But despite a growing belief that the Nuggets finally are ready to acknowledge that a truce with Anthony is unattainable, sources say conflicting priorities among Denver decision-makers have frustrated every effort to sweeten the deal for them.
“Denver keeps moving the goal posts,” said one person connected to the talks. “They say, ‘We want this,’ and New Jersey says, ‘We got it.’ And then Denver says, ‘Wait a minute, we want this and this.’”
Around and around they go, several weeks after the basic framework of the deal was hatched by old friends Kevin O’Connor, Larry Brown and Billy King. Sources say those three did the legwork on the four-team trade involving New Jersey, Denver, Charlotte and Utah and brought it to the Nuggets as a potentially attractive way for them to part ways with their disgruntled superstar. O’Connor, the Jazz GM, is a former assistant coach under Brown at UCLA. Brown, the Bobcats’ coach, has known King, the Nets’ news president, since his college days at Duke – and the two worked together in Philadelphia.
Ironically, one person familiar with the negotiations said the deal probably would’ve been done by now if Charlotte hadn’t waived center Erick Dampier and his non-guaranteed $13 million contract – which would’ve been a home-run for Denver in an exchange for Martin. Including Dampier in the deal would’ve provided what source described as “ridiculous savings” for the Nuggets – about $33 million when factoring in the tax, making the deal “a no-brainer.”
In the absence of that asset, the Nuggets – led by newly hired GM Masai Ujiri, 30-year-old executive Josh Kroenke and adviser Bret Bearup – have insisted on trying to squeeze more out of the existing deal while also exploring offers from other teams. The other part of their protracted strategy – sitting down face-to-face with Anthony before media day Monday – may have backfired on them.
Ujiri, trying to take the high road in the Anthony matter, insisted on meeting with him in person before signing off on the deal – as any new GM would. Unfortunately for Ujiri, Anthony’s discontent with the direction of the organization pre-dates the new GM’s arrival – and also runs deeper than Ujiri was aware. One reason Ujiri declined to give any details of his face-to-face encounter with Anthony Monday, according to two people familiar with the exchange, was simply that there were no details. Anthony, not wanting to rehash old wounds with his new boss, politely declined to engage Ujiri in any substantive conversation about his future.
“He said, ‘I’m cool,’ and, ‘You’re going to have to talk to my reps about that,’” said one of the people familiar with the meeting. In addition, multiple reports indicated that Anthony did not participate in the promotional activities players typically perform on media day, and the Denver Post noted that his image was removed from a prominent ad on the Nuggets’ website – replaced by Ty Lawson.
As a result, one source maintained Tuesday that the Nuggets are “going to move him, like now, ASAP.” But after all the delays and frustration on all sides, that may be an optimistic take with several teams preferring to take a step back from the talks -- at least for now.
"The Nuggets are going to look at every single trade and they’re going to have to work with [Anthony]," another person familiar with the talks said. "And that’s really going to slow the whole process down.”
Further complicating matters, sources say Karl is not going to be as influential in trying to keep Anthony in Denver as first believed. With the departure of Karl’s biggest supporter, former GM Mark Warkentien, and his top assistant, Tim Grgurich, Karl is unsure where he stands in the organization as he returns from his heroic cancer fight with one year left on his contract. The result has been tension – or at least uneasiness – among Karl, his staff and the newly formed front office. Plus, while Karl knows that he has a 50-win playoff team with Anthony and a rebuilding team without him, sources say the 59-year-old coach is growing tired of the MeloDrama and isn’t relishing the strain that it could place on him and the team.
the trade isn't going to happen, Nets took it off the table at least for now that's why I heard
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