CNN fires Rick Sanchez

[Parker2112]

I never understood this whole "jew" thing. What is the implication here? What does it mean that "jews" are in a lot of business control stuff? There are a lot of "christians" that are in a lot of the same stuff as well.

The implication is that:
1. There is a elite powerful contingent within the Jewish population within this country that dictate our foriegn policy to ensure it is consistent with the wants/needs of Israel, and thus we are perpetually tied into the conflict in the Middle East because of the influence of a small number of hugely powerful "zionist" Jews here in the US. Believers in this theory would blame this influence for perpetual war and imperialist behaviors we currently see here in the US.

2. A contingent of the Jewish community here in the US instigates such a perpetual war scenario to profit on it, since they have massive control within the banking industry, as well as our currency. They have the power to coin money (controlling interests in the Federal Reserve) and fund our war efforts (printing money out of thin air) while earning interest on the return, and causing our economy to fail through the ensuing inflation.

3. That this has been the M.O. of this "Jewish" contingent for centuries: capture control of the currency, and thus gain real control of the country, completely independent of the governmental body, and thus not subject to the will of the voters. And to initiate armed conflict and fund both sides, taking repayment+interest from the winner, and ownership of valuable assets from the loser. This is claimed to have been going on since the times of Napolean.

4. That by owning most major media outlets, they can facilitate this control of the country by disseminating what info they would have us believe.

I only unraveled this thread recently, and I know it is pretty similar to the plotline Hitler used to denounce Jews in Germany prior to WWII in an attempt to justify the Holocaust to the people of Germany and the World.

I always wondered the same thing...why would anyone villify the Jewish people? They seemed cool to me. Well, the bottom line: su ious anti-semites claim they come into a country, take control of the currency, then take complete control from behind the scenes, leading it into war and ruin.

I dont buy it, and I sort of feel bad spreading this malicious misinformation about Jewish people even if Im just trying to inform you of what the story is, but I think everyone can make up your own mind here. If you are not predisposed to bigotry, you wont buy the .

[Creepn]

Hmmm, now that you mention it, there are a couple of jews in congress...probably enough to vote their way. I should look up which of the jews that are in congress that voted to start the war in Iraq to see if that theory holds up.

So that's why Mel Gibson said that Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars huh? Thanks for clearing that up Parker.

I always felt that we were mostly sympathetic to jews because after all we did liberate them from that torture they've endured and that they are still getting hassle from other ethnic groups.

BUT on the other hand, I did have to educate myself to why they were always getting grief from other people like the Palestinians. I surely wasn't gonna get that type of information from the news....

[Parker2112]

Hmmm, now that you mention it, there are a couple of jews in congress...probably enough to vote their way. I should look up which of the jews that are in congress that voted to start the war in Iraq to see if that theory holds up.

So that's why Mel Gibson said that Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars huh? Thanks for clearing that up Parker.

I always felt that we were mostly sympathetic to jews because after all we did liberate them from that torture they've endured and that they are still getting hassle from other ethnic groups.

BUT on the other hand, I did have to educate myself to why they were always getting grief from other people like the Palestinians. I surely wasn't gonna get that type of information from the news....

Some claim that this originated centuries ago, because Christians' faith forbid them from charging interest on loans, and since Jewish people had no such limitation, they mastered the business of banking before anyone else.

Interesting theory.

Also, Anti-semitic conspiracies aside, there is a lot of interesting information surrounding the practice of war-profiteering (profiting from war), that I think everyone should be aware of. It is in no way limited to Jewish people, but it is key to understanding the driving forces behind war and imperialistic policies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_profiteering

These conspiracies have been around for a long time, and are the primary driving philosophies for a lot of ultra-right wing neo-nazi/skinhead groups. But the theories have picked up new torch-bearers in the Anti-New World Order groups like Alex Jones, who claim that a group of world elite are driving us to a one-world fascist government, and in the meantime are trying to undermine our soveriegnty by undermining our economy and bankrupting us with war and socialist policies. While you will never hear the word "Jew," this line of thinking commonly uses the terms "bankster, money men," which could be code-talk for Jew.

Here is a discussion of both Mel Gibson and Alex Jones as possible Anti-Semites.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159313

[DJ Mbenga]

this guy isnt relevant. its probably just cnn looking for any reason to fire him since he was a choice from the fired guy kline or something. the bad thing about this is brooke baldwin no longer stands at his side while they talk meaning we dont see any legs anymore. sad day guys

[Winehole23]

I always wondered the same thing...why would anyone villify the Jewish people? They seemed cool to me. Well, the bottom line: su ious anti-semites claim they come into a country, take control of the currency, then take complete control from behind the scenes, leading it into war and ruin.

I dont buy it, and I sort of feel bad spreading this malicious misinformation

Remorse perhaps, but I do not sense any reluctance on your part to share malicious misinformation in detail.

Why do you "sort of feel bad" about it, Parker2112?

[MiamiHeat]

the jewish struggle goes back for centuries.

they are salivating at the mouth for a chance to rebuild their temple. the first one was destroyed by the babylonians, then the 2nd one was destroyed by the romans, led by roman general us i believe, who has a famous arch of us in italy to commemorate the sacking of jerusalem.

since then, jews have been "wanderers" in "foreign" lands, as they call it.

this is the entire reasoning behind the creation of the Jewish State in 1949 (i believe) after World War 2. They finally got their chance, amidst the chaos, to pe ion and influence world politicians to give them "their land"

so the West threw out the "palestinians" from the land, and they have been fighting israel ever since due to this.

The next step for the jews (the powerful ones) is to rebuild a 3rd temple. the only problem is, there is a popular mosque in the spot they want to build it in LOL.

its NO COINCIDENCE that Israel has been caught RED HANDED trying to frame other countries/terrorist organizations by attacking the United States. this is to get us to go to war for them and help them....

if you dont believe any of this, you have no ing clue what humans are capable of. go read up on your history on what humans, world rulers, wealthy people have done throughout history.

the USA has already caught israel red handed attacking the USA and trying to frame someone else to make us go to war for them.

not ALL jews are like this.... just a handful of powerful ones.

[Winehole23]

^^^nice timing

Your unashamed anti-semitism is an apt foil for Parker's merely ironic bigotry.

[Creepn]

its NO COINCIDENCE that Israel has been caught RED HANDED trying to frame other countries/terrorist organizations by attacking the United States. this is to get us to go to war for them and help them....
.

Can you explain this a little more? How were they caught red handed?

[Winehole23]

he's right.

That the "media as a whole" is controlled by Jews. Correct?

[Cry Havoc]

That the "media as a whole" is controlled by Jew. Correct?

Ftfy.

[Yonivore]

So, a drunk Sanchez runs over and kills a man in the 90's and keeps his job; makes up quotes and attributes them to a Conservative radio personality, in effort to thwart his bid for part ownership in an NFL franchise, and keeps his job; shows his stupidity on a regular basis, as evidenced by his bewilderment of how a volcano could erupt in Iceland, and keeps his job; but, damn, say something a bit negative about Jon Stewart or network ownership and -- goodbye!

Wasn't his the highest-rated show CNN had at the moment?

[Parker2112]

Remorse perhaps, but I do not sense any reluctance on your part to share malicious misinformation in detail.

Why do you "sort of feel bad" about it, Parker2112?

In a way I am propogating the narrative. However, I wondered about this for years, wondered about how anyone could ever villify an ethnic group with such a rich heritage.

And though I dont believe that this line of thinking describes the Jews, anymore than you can take a historical account of the crips and bloods and say that it describes blacks, I see it as informative in many ways...if you understand this theory, you can easily spot it when speakers attempt to propogate it, and there is value in that.

[Parker2112]

^^^nice timing

Your unashamed anti-semitism is an apt foil for Parker's merely ironic bigotry.

If I say that the New Black Panther Party has plans to overthrow the federal government, does that make me racist?

It might imply deeper resentment towards people of color, but then again it might not.

I think this thread would better benefit from your response to his post, rather than the name calling/personal attacks that you seem to be so good at.

I think the honest discussion is beneficial. I have Jewish family members, and I have spoken with them about this frankly. I dont know why you are scared to.

[Parker2112]

Can you explain this a little more? How were they caught red handed?

look up the term "false-flag attack."

[Supergirl]

Good job, CNN. Unload your deadweight. Sanchez was a useless sack of , you know they were just waiting for a good excuse to fire him. So many talented Latinos out there, and this is the best CNN could do?

[Wild Cobra]

I never understood this whole "jew" thing. What is the implication here? What does it mean that "jews" are in a lot of business control stuff? There are a lot of "christians" that are in a lot of the same stuff as well.

I'm not sure, but I think the implication is that the Jewish people make shrewd businessmen.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow...

Parker's idea is overboard, and I think I will add antisemitic as one of his character flaws.

[Yonivore]

Good job, CNN. Unload your deadweight. Sanchez was a useless sack of , you know they were just waiting for a good excuse to fire him. So many talented Latinos out there, and this is the best CNN could do?

I'm pretty sure I read, somewhere, Sanchez had one of the highest rated programs on the network...Not that that means much.

[MiamiHeat]

The simple mind always tries to reduce an argument to a level of their own understanding.

thus, stating facts about the issue, to a simple mind, becomes "you're an anti-semite!, cause like, you are saying jews do bad things!"

[MiamiHeat]

Can you explain this a little more? How were they caught red handed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

israeli government doing it.

also, the whole "prime minister didn't know about it" is called plausible deniability. he knew about it, but the underlings take the fall as "rogues" and protect the country from shame if they get caught.

not the only time israel did it, just an example.

[MiamiHeat]

oh, and how about you guys learn about what jews did after Britain helped them gain control of palestine by chasing the arabs out?

they then turned on britain and created TERRORIST MILITANT organizations like the Irgun led by future israeli prime minister menachem begin.

THEY WALKED INTO A HOTEL AND BOMBED IT, INNOCENT PEOPLE AND ALL.

ing hypocritical to whine about the palestinians bombing them, isn't it? Who do you think they learned it from?

The Jews (the wealthy intellectuals, not your nextdoor neighbor) see themselves as "in exile" until they complete their agenda

[Parker2112]

Wow...

Parker's idea is overboard, and I think I will add antisemitic as one of his character flaws.

you WC.

Its not my idea. I dont believe it. I have not disparaged Jewish people in any form here. This theory has been propogated by hateful groups for centuries, and the latest seems to be the ultra-right wingers. You are much closer to that description than I can ever be.

THE IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE HOME: this theory has gone underground to avoid the difficulty of being heard over the chants of "Anti-semite." Not only that, but it is spread through the code-speak of people like David Icke, etc. who can propogate anti-semitic beliefs to people who have no idea what the root of the plotline they receive actually is. It is helpful to let the message be torn out of the shadows and see the light of day. If a person leans towards bigotry you cant stop them from their tendencies. But in a time when fear is being used so effectively to manipulate the American people, it is a worthy cause to disarm the true anti-semitic message by understanding what they preach.

And just to get you straight, since you cant discern the facts from your muddled interpretation of the same:

We are talking about distinct things here: People of a given religion, people of a certain nationality, people of a certain elite financial plane, and people of a distinct heritage.

These disparate classes are getting muddled into a single category: Jews.

That is the failing of this discussion. To criticize Israel is not to be anti-semitic, any more than to criticize GWB is anti-American. And etc. and etc. and etc.

Unlike you're kindred bretheren here, I dont post story after story after story about people of certain heritage, trying to inflict a biased view on others. I am simply shining light on the underbelly of the ultra-right wingers in your neighborhood who hold their clan meetings in the Gorge.

[Winehole23]

I think the honest discussion is beneficial. I have Jewish family members, and I have spoken with them about this frankly. I dont know why you are scared to.

Pointing out the total dishonesty of the framing doesn't make me scared or you a truthteller. You spread garbage and call it wisdom.

[Wild Cobra]

We are talking about distinct things here: People of a given religion, people of a certain nationality, people of a certain elite financial plane, and people of a distinct heritage.

I agree, and your generalization of them as a group is every bit insulting as racism when regarding black people.

These disparate classes are getting muddled into a single category: Jews.

Why do you do that?

That is the failing of this discussion. To criticize Israel is not to be anti-semitic, any more than to criticize GWB is anti-American. And etc. and etc. and etc.

Well, I have a hard time criticizing the good people of Israel knowing the suffrage they have. Ever work close with actual citizens of Israel? I have.

Unlike you're kindred bretheren here, I dont post story after story after story about people of certain heritage, trying to inflict a biased view on others. I am simply shining light on the underbelly of the ultra-right wingers in your neighborhood who hold their clan meetings in the Gorge.

I don't see it that way, but if that makes your indoctrination easier to swallow, then suck hard!

[Parker2112]

Pointing out the total dishonesty of the framing doesn't make me scared or you a truthteller. You spread garbage and call it wisdom.

So if a History textbook repeats any part of the plotline used against the Jews in Nazi Germany, does that book become anti-semitic?

Give me a break, clowns.