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    I wouldn't feel so critical of the FD in this case had they not allowed fire victims to pay the fee retroactively in the past.

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    I just read where providing the entire county with civilized/soclialistic fire fighting service would raise property taxes 0.13%.

    The TN bubbas are penny wise and pound foolish.

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    Obion County residents must pay $75 if they want fire protection from the city of South Fulton. I get that. How is it any different that the property tax that automatically gets deducted for such coverage?
    Man, talk about stumbling into an important implication. I am bookmarking this post, and will come back to it repeatedly.

    But first:

    How would you answer that question Darrin?

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    I just read where providing the entire county with civilized/soclialistic fire fighting service would raise property taxes 0.13%.

    The TN bubbas are penny wise and pound foolish.
    You would be surprised how common volunteer fire coverage is around the country; and it IS NOT just in "Bubbaville".

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    they should have put out the fire, then sent an itemized bill for services. more than likely, the debt could be turned into a lien if left unpaid, and probably could not be discharged by the owing party through bankruptcy. more than that though, it's the right thing to do.

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    I'm not surprised by VFDs at all, even if they're very socialistic. People working together to help each other? no, The Economic Darwinistic AynRand-y American Way is Every Rugged Individual For Himself

    I'm amazed that hate-govt/hate-taxes/Christ-Lord-Jesus-Savior bubbas separate fire fighting charges from the general muncipal/county tax pool.
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    they should have put out the fire, then sent an itemized bill for services. more than likely, the debt could be turned into a lien if left unpaid, and probably could not be discharged by the owing party through bankruptcy. more than that though, it's the right thing to do.
    That certainly sounds like a more reasonable approach.

    I'd be interested to see if this incident has caused a bunch of people to start paying the $75 fee.

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    i posted this somewhere else as well but the fact is that our emergency services can never be qualified or predicated upon a standard that must be met in order to earn these services. they have to be universally available. if that is compromised we place our entire society at risk. this was an inexcusable offense of basic ethics when it comes to our emergency response system.

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    Free market fire fighting is also "CHRISTIAN" fire fighting. Jesus do like him so flames. ain't go no flames in Heaven.

    "The fire department did the right and Christian thing. The right thing, by the way, is also the Christian thing, because there can be no difference between the two. The right thing to do will always be the Christian thing to do, and the Christian thing to do will always be the right thing to do."

    Christ is one Macho Manly Man SOB, too:

    "In this case, critics of the fire department are confused both about right and wrong and about Christianity. And it is because they have fallen prey to a weakened, feminized version of Christianity that is only about softer virtues such as compassion and not in any part about the muscular Christian virtues of individual responsibility and accountability."




    http://wonkette.com/425195/afa-jesus...-house-to-burn


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    Man, talk about stumbling into an important implication. I am bookmarking this post, and will come back to it repeatedly.

    But first:

    How would you answer that question Darrin?
    Do you mean if you fail to par property taxes, you lose you house?

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    Do you mean if you fail to [pay] property taxes, you lose [your] house?
    That is one of the differences, yes.

    How would you answer the question?

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    That is one of the differences, yes.

    How would you answer the question?
    Sorry that it comes to getting what you paid for.

    Look. Everyone with property in that community knew the stakes. Nobody held a gun to their head and said they had to buy property there.

    Community services need funding, and it isn't always right to be en led to a service you willfully don't pay for.

    What I haven't heard of this conversation is if the guy ever paid, or just snubbed his nose at them. I would think the way most communities work, that the fire department would have put his house out if he had been a payer of the service in the past, and fell into hard times.

    I'll lay odds he simply refused to pay out of wan en lement mentality.

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